March 9, 200719 yr Personally, I think that South Park is one of the most brilliantly written shows on T.V. I don't just mean in the comedic sense either.
March 9, 200719 yr Personally, I think that South Park is one of the most brilliantly written shows on T.V. I don't just mean in the comedic sense either. :thumb:!
March 9, 200719 yr Personally, I think that South Park is one of the most brilliantly written shows on T.V. I don't just mean in the comedic sense either. Matt Stone and Trey Parker are comedic genius'.
March 9, 200719 yr When Cartman kept laughing at the teacher in the beginning, I think I laughed just as long as he did. I love this show. Get down with the sickness.....:lol: :lol: That is so hilarious. As a side question, does anybody remember what season, the "You Got Served" episode was on. That's one of my top 5 favorite episodes and I might go buy that season. "Don't break my heart....":lol:
March 9, 200719 yr I have to admit that I LOVE Southpark. I have my Tivo set to record all episodes on every channel on an ongoing basis. That way I can watch all I want after the kids have gone to bed. Some of my favorites. episode where Cartman wants to join NAMBLA because they "care about kids". episode about the female teacher's "improper" behaviour with one of her students. Tom Cruise Scientology episode. mmmmmkay....... Throw in when Cartman and Butters were king of the Sea-people. I died when Cartman explained how he got all the free sea people he could want. Horrible..... Or when Cartman's hand is giving Taco-flavored kisses to Ben Affleck. Sheeeeeesh. :scared:
March 9, 200719 yr People that get offended by television shows bother me a lot. They do have the 'OFF' option... This type of statement bothers me because I deal with students all the time that don't turn it off and I have to deal with the language, attitude, etc of South Park. Their parents don't monitor what they are watching and as a result I have to deal with the "stuff" that comes to school via these type of programs. Come and spend a year teaching in a public school setting dealing with "South Park" type fallout and see how you feel about this type of crap on television.
March 9, 200719 yr This type of statement bothers me because I deal with students all the time that don't turn it off and I have to deal with the language, attitude, etc of South Park. Their parents don't monitor what they are watching and as a result I have to deal with the "stuff" that comes to school via these type of programs. Come and spend a year teaching in a public school setting dealing with "South Park" type fallout and see how you feel about this type of crap on television. So the solution is...? The part about parents not monitoring this stuff says it all. It is free speech, I'm not always happy with the results but the alternative is worse. I would rather have my kids watch "South Park" than "The View" or "Bill Maher". JMO.
March 9, 200719 yr So the solution is...? The part about parents not monitoring this stuff says it all. It is free speech, I'm not always happy with the results but the alternative is worse. I would rather have my kids watch "South Park" than "The View" or "Bill Maher". JMO. How about neither? I am SICK AND TIRED OF THE FREE SPEECH ARGUMENT. We limit free speech all the time in this country. BGP limits our free speech and I don't see any picketing of guru's house. You can't make threats on the Presidents' lives without a visit from the Secret Service and possible charges for it. Students are suspended from school for language and making comments about teachers. You can't say certain words on public television. We limit free speech in this country ALL THE TIME. Why do we have to let the crap of South Park on tv but we can limit certain words from being said?
March 9, 200719 yr This type of statement bothers me because I deal with students all the time that don't turn it off and I have to deal with the language, attitude, etc of South Park. Their parents don't monitor what they are watching and as a result I have to deal with the "stuff" that comes to school via these type of programs. Come and spend a year teaching in a public school setting dealing with "South Park" type fallout and see how you feel about this type of crap on television. Right, because I'm sure South Park is the only reason the kids act that way. Come on lbbc. The show is not intended for kids; it's a sattire that uses *gasp* adult language. It does a great job at being funny but still being smart comedy. Blame the parents for not knowing how to "monitor" what their kids watch. I bet half the kids don't even get the point of the show, and only watch it because of the language and cartoony drawings. That's like watching Entrapment only to see Catherine Zeta Jones move around in tights and ignore her brilliant acting......oh wait... My parents didn't like me watching back when it first came out (roughly 5th grade for me), but recently I've made my parents watch some of it and even they think it's funny because they didn't pass judgement on it because of the language, "attitudes", and cartoony drawings. However, they still don't let my little brother watch it, and that's the way it should be because it's not intended for him.
March 9, 200719 yr How about neither? I am SICK AND TIRED OF THE FREE SPEECH ARGUMENT. We limit free speech all the time in this country. BGP limits our free speech and I don't see any picketing of guru's house. You can't make threats on the Presidents' lives without a visit from the Secret Service and possible charges for it. Students are suspended from school for language and making comments about teachers. You can't say certain words on public television. We limit free speech in this country ALL THE TIME. Why do we have to let the crap of South Park on tv but we can limit certain words from being said? You answered your own question. Its because it falls short of the limit. FYI, people choose to follow the rules on this site in order to be a member. There are many sites with more relaxed standards. Try pointing out to your students the flaws in such shows. I used to complain to my kids that the Simpsons was a degenerate show. They continued to watch but I think they questioned some of the premises of the show. Just last year my daughter (a 4th year Politics and Government student at UVA) wrote an excellent paper about the effects of "The Simpsons" on the decline of the American family. Fight the good fight and hope to win enough battles to eventually win the war.
March 9, 200719 yr Right, because I'm sure South Park is the only reason the kids act that way. Come on lbbc. The show is not intended for kids; it's a sattire that uses *gasp* adult language. It does a great job at being funny but still being smart comedy. Blame the parents for not knowing how to "monitor" what their kids watch. I bet half the kids don't even get the point of the show, and only watch it because of the language and cartoony drawings. That's like watching Entrapment only to see Catherine Zeta Jones move around in tights and ignore her brilliant acting......oh wait... My parents didn't like me watching back when it first came out (roughly 5th grade for me), but recently I've made my parents watch some of it and even they think it's funny because they didn't pass judgement on it because of the language, "attitudes", and cartoony drawings. However, they still don't let my little brother watch it, and that's the way it should be because it's not intended for him. They use the language to make it seem cool to the youth. And yes, it is aimed at teenagers. There are great things that are funny without language and course humor. BGP is hilarious and we stay away from both of those. Are these two guys unable to be funny without making fun of someone? They chose the easy way to get attention for the cartoon and the youth falls for it everytime. Not talented muscically, than say a cuss word, rap about drugs or what sexual things you will do and you will sell records to them. Can be intelligently funny, than say a few cuss words, make fun of people and it will sell. I am fighting the good fight right here and now with this post. Because there are a bunch of young people, HS students, who are on this site either as members or just readers. They read me saying you don't have to say a cuss word or rip on a person to be funny. They read you justifying that this is a good show. ABOUT AN HOUR A GO, a student used the F word. His reply, he should be able to use it because he sees it on TV all the time. I told him I saw it once and Charles Rocket used it on SNL and was fired for it the next week. I rest my case.
March 9, 200719 yr They use the language to make it seem cool to the youth. And yes, it is aimed at teenagers. There are great things that are funny without language and course humor. BGP is hilarious and we stay away from both of those. Are these two guys unable to be funny without making fun of someone? They chose the easy way to get attention for the cartoon and the youth falls for it everytime. Not talented muscically, than say a cuss word, rap about drugs or what sexual things you will do and you will sell records to them. Can be intelligently funny, than say a few cuss words, make fun of people and it will sell. I am fighting the good fight right here and now with this post. Because there are a bunch of young people, HS students, who are on this site either as members or just readers. They read me saying you don't have to say a cuss word or rip on a person to be funny. They read you justifying that this is a good show. ABOUT AN HOUR A GO, a student used the F word. His reply, he should be able to use it because he sees it on TV all the time. I told him I saw it once and Charles Rocket used it on SNL and was fired for it the next week. I rest my case. All hail savior lbbc. A lot of things are rated mature: for mature audiences. You don't have to cuss to be funny, but it's a very common thing in the adult world, like it or not. There are plenty of movies, ADULT movies that use ADULT language. Yes, I will justify it is a good show. It's a great show for those whom it is intended. The large majority of the episodes are political sattires. Just because you teach doesn't mean you are the only one that sees attitude problems with kids. Why don't you try looking at their home first before you assume it's the TV "poisoning" these innocent youths. I know plenty of kids that are raised very well, watch South Park, or any other "horrible" movie or show that uses adult themes and they behave extremely well and polite. You know why? They were raised right and can handle it. Their parents know when it's ok for them to watch a show like that. Why aren't you "fighting the good fight" against any person/show that uses language in the program or stand-up comedy? By the way, people get made fun of....a lot....in a lot of different ways and jokes and TV shows and whatever....it's a common theme for humor. I get made fun of, and I make fun of people. It's ok, it doesn't hurt their feelings or mine, we can handle it. I wasn't home schooled in a bubble as a kid. Making fun of people happens here on BGP, just you have to put a smilie by it if you don't want to get suspended.
March 9, 200719 yr All hail savior lbbc. A lot of things are rated mature: for mature audiences. You don't have to cuss to be funny, but it's a very common thing in the adult world, like it or not. There are plenty of movies, ADULT movies that use ADULT language. Yes, I will justify it is a good show. It's a great show for those whom it is intended. The large majority of the episodes are political sattires. Just because you teach doesn't mean you are the only one that sees attitude problems with kids. Why don't you try looking at their home first before you assume it's the TV "poisoning" these innocent youths. I know plenty of kids that are raised very well, watch South Park, or any other "horrible" movie or show that uses adult themes and they behave extremely well and polite. You know why? They were raised right and can handle it. Their parents know when it's ok for them to watch a show like that. Why aren't you "fighting the good fight" against any person/show that uses language in the program or stand-up comedy? By the way, people get made fun of....a lot....in a lot of different ways and jokes and TV shows and whatever....it's a common theme for humor. I get made fun of, and I make fun of people. It's ok, it doesn't hurt their feelings or mine, we can handle it. I wasn't home schooled in a bubble as a kid. Making fun of people happens here on BGP, just you have to put a smilie by it if you don't want to get suspended. You make the argument against yourself. This is not an adult television show. This is the same as a show they would put on MTV. It is aimed at the youth. It is not aimed at adults. It is aimed at youth. It is unfortunately watch by the kids who don't have the strong parental influence to offset the effects that it has. We wonder why the kids have the attitudes they have as they sit and watch this crap with no parental influence telling them that to not watch this show. As far as the making fun of issue, almost every single school shooting you could trace back to the shooter commenting on how some group that he ended up shooting made fun of him. I live and work in a world that this is a daily/hourly issue. The language they think is appropriate to use in any situation because it is what they hear all the time, the behavior that they think is appropriate and sometimes unfortunately either through assaults or killings the things they think are appropriate reactions to things that upset them. EVERYDAY I work with students whose lives are being thrown away. And you can make fun of me if you wish and it makes you feel better, by my concern, is those kids who have NO POSITIVE PARENTAL INFLUENCE and crap like this is what they idolize and their present and future is littered with jail time. I would like a society that tells them acting and treating people like this is not appropriate. But I live in one that says this is a good show and the kids think that means it is acceptable to treat people as they see on television and hear on music. So when you grow up and some teen boy picks up your daughter for a date, calls her a ho and treats her as he has heard in some rap song or movie or show, take your stance that it is good adult music and shows.
March 9, 200719 yr You make the argument against yourself. This is not an adult television show. This is the same as a show they would put on MTV. It is aimed at the youth. It is not aimed at adults. It is aimed at youth. It is unfortunately watch by the kids who don't have the strong parental influence to offset the effects that it has. We wonder why the kids have the attitudes they have as they sit and watch this crap with no parental influence telling them that to not watch this show. As far as the making fun of issue, almost every single school shooting you could trace back to the shooter commenting on how some group that he ended up shooting made fun of him. I live and work in a world that this is a daily/hourly issue. The language they think is appropriate to use in any situation because it is what they hear all the time, the behavior that they think is appropriate and sometimes unfortunately either through assaults or killings the things they think are appropriate reactions to things that upset them. EVERYDAY I work with students whose lives are being thrown away. And you can make fun of me if you wish and it makes you feel better, by my concern, is those kids who have NO POSITIVE PARENTAL INFLUENCE and crap like this is what they idolize and their present and future is littered with jail time. I would like a society that tells them acting and treating people like this is not appropriate. But I live in one that says this is a good show and the kids think that means it is acceptable to treat people as they see on television and hear on music. So when you grow up and some teen boy picks up your daughter for a date, calls her a ho and treats her as he has heard in some rap song or movie or show, take your stance that it is good adult music and shows. This is getting pretty ridiculous. YOU answered yourself in your own argument. If the parents don't raise their kid right, then they watch adult shows when they shouldn't. Or let me rephrase my, young adult to adult shows. Go check out the T.V. times of South Park and let me know when it's on and what shows are aired around it. You see any shows aimed for kids? The Sarah Silverman show? I think not. They don't even air the South Park Movie unless it is after 1 a.m. I'm not going to argue that South Park/bad language is appropriate for everyone, because it's not. Just because it's a cartoon doesn't mean it's aimed for kids. Although I can tell you one thing, when I go home and I happen to watch South Park there and my little brother (13) is in the room, he doesn't even stay and watch because it doesn't interest him. That goes for the other 4 friends I've seen him hang out with. You've already answered yourself in your argument. If their parenting isn't there, then how on God's green earth can you blame T.V. show?? Because if you want to remove any bad language or adult content just in case a kid hasn't had good parenting, then you've got a LOT bigger fight on your hand than South Park, so good luck. And in regards to your ridiculous last paragraph, I've listened to plenty of rap and watched plenty of South Park and other movies for a good amount of time and I'm still 20 years old, but you won't catch me treating a girl like you claim somebody is going to do. Hmmmm why's that? Because I have parents that raised me well and I'm not that type of person.
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.