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Coaches and the Sweet Sixteen.

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Does making it to the Sweet Sixteen make you a sucessful coach? Just wondering what everyones thoughts were about this.

Many "successful" coaches never make the sweet 16. What about the "little guy"... How do you spell success???;)

Does making it to the Sweet Sixteen make you a successful coach? Just wondering what everyones thoughts were about this.
Would vary, according to a school with limited post-season success and others, whom make frequent trips and have State Championships aspirations.

 

Anytime, you reach the Sweet 16, it's an excellent accomplishment but the "body of work" (new media word) is more important to success, than the current success.

Does making it to the Sweet Sixteen make you a sucessful coach? Just wondering what everyones thoughts were about this.

 

Not to get too heavy.

 

Success is a negotiated condition, and is measured by an agreed-upon (negotiated) target. If getting up in the morning is the target, then I was very successful today. If it is actually accomplishing something, then I better get off BGP and do some work.

 

If a coach starts a job and inherits a team that goes to the sweet 16 (or wins a NCAA championship), then I would say the jury is out to evaluate what the coach can do with players he/she has developed. For that reason, I go with "the body of work" like STRIKE3.

Also depends on your Region. Many regions only have one "good" team, so getting to the Sweet 16 isn't that tough.

Also depends on your Region. Many regions only have one "good" team, so getting to the Sweet 16 isn't that tough.

 

 

Good point.

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I agree with you as well i belive you can be sucesful and never win a district or a region or go to the Dance jsust seems like alot of peopl in todays world look at sucess as in what have you done for me lately.

I think that if the coach has his players work hard, year in and year out win or lose he is successful.

 

But I'm also not stupid and realize that wins are what matters most to fans. So I think if the coach always has his players in position to win whether it's district or regionals, that is good.

Many "successful" coaches never make the sweet 16. What about the "little guy"... How do you spell success???;)

I agree. A lot of very good coaches never made it to the big dance.

I agree. A lot of very good coaches never made it to the big dance.

I agree several good coaches never make it to the Sweet 16 but are very successful. Owsley County' former Coach Charlie Turner won over 200 games and 5 or 6 56th district championships as well as two 14th region runner up finishes and several semi final apperances in his 10 year career with the Owls.

I agree. A lot of very good coaches never made it to the big dance.

 

 

Thanks for the comment rojas4.

I agree several good coaches never make it to the Sweet 16 but are very successful. Owsley County' former Coach Charlie Turner won over 200 games and 5 or 6 56th district championships as well as two 14th region runner up finishes and several semi final apperances in his 10 year career with the Owls.

Tim Bobroiski (sp?) would be another Owsley Co good one that not many outside the 14th know about.

Success is measured differently at different schools, an occasional regional tournament appearance is great at some schools but a sign of regression at a school like Lex Cath. I think you measure success as a coach by getting all you can out of all you have.

After talking to many area coaches and getting their input from over the years on this very topic...many of them have the same philosophy...and that is that a successful coach is not determined about wins and losses but about how hard their players work for them during the season on the court, in the classroom, and in their community. At Mayfield we are very lucky to have two great coaches that are "successful" as they get everything they can out of the players that they have, while also teaching great life lessons. Plus they do not want or need to "sell their soul" to win a region or state title to make them feel like they are successful as if a player no matter how much of a star or role player he or she might be if they mess up then they sit for a required period of time with no exceptions. Also a successful coach is one that does not forget about his/her players once they graduate but keep in touch with them and welcome them back to the program after their playing days are over with. Granted winning makes things more fun for all involved...but there are more important things than winning, as the truly great coaches are able to teach more about a loss than a win, however; unfortunately not all coaches (and fans) have that philospophy. Be a great world and sports venue if we could all learn that.

After talking to many area coaches and getting their input from over the years on this very topic...many of them have the same philosophy...and that is that a successful coach is not determined about wins and losses but about how hard their players work for them during the season on the court, in the classroom, and in their community. At Mayfield we are very lucky to have two great coaches that are "successful" as they get everything they can out of the players that they have, while also teaching great life lessons. Plus they do not want or need to "sell their soul" to win a region or state title to make them feel like they are successful as if a player no matter how much of a star or role player he or she might be if they mess up then they sit for a required period of time with no exceptions. Also a successful coach is one that does not forget about his/her players once they graduate but keep in touch with them and welcome them back to the program after their playing days are over with. Granted winning makes things more fun for all involved...but there are more important things than winning, as the truly great coaches are able to teach more about a loss than a win, however; unfortunately not all coaches (and fans) have that philospophy. Be a great world and sports venue if we could all learn that.

 

Small school Dayton's Coaches have to feel like successful coaches this year with the past and adversity in past years, although they may never get to

the regionals, much less the State

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