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BBN’s frustrations by the numbers

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27 minutes ago, Jumper_Dad said:

You know that's not what he's saying. I'm not even going to explain it, because you know the point he's making. ?

And the point that I’m making is you can’t pretend to be happy about an unproven coach with zero post season success while having complained about a guy who won more at UK, regular and post season, than Mark Pope ever will. 

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  • FrankNicodemus
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    Time will tell....What I can tell you is there is a new found energy level that I haven't felt in 10 years around the program.  But like everything in Sports, you have to win.....  I think Pope knows

  • TheDeuce
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    I understand that Cal "under achieved" the last handful of years, but I just think that the people that pushed him out are going to look silly when Pope is no better, if not worse.  Pope is not g

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    And the point that I’m making is you can’t pretend to be happy about an unproven coach with zero post season success while having complained about a guy who won more at UK, regular and post season, th

19 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

And the point that I’m making is you can’t pretend to be happy about an unproven coach with zero post season success while having complained about a guy who won more at UK, regular and post season, than Mark Pope ever will. 

So now you are Nostradamus, got it!

Go Big Blue!

By the way I’m ecstatic with the hire, and you can’t change my mind…. Let him coach!

1 hour ago, TheDeuce said:

And the point that I’m making is you can’t pretend to be happy about an unproven coach with zero post season success while having complained about a guy who won more at UK, regular and post season, than Mark Pope ever will. 

And how do you know this for sure?

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10 hours ago, futurecoach said:

 

I read yours just fine, but maybe you missed my comment saying how you using the last “6 post seasons” in your argument is misleading. Considering one of those years the post season was cancelled and not even played. I know you narrative you are trying to tell. However, was just saying your numbers is over the last 5 post seasons, not 6. 
 

Which I even acknowledge the last 4 years was bad. So calculating the last 4 years is going to bring down the numbers for any other years you like to add with it. Just like the first 4 years overall would bring numbers way up. The best bet would be to take his first 4 years, and his last 4 years cancel them out. Then just look at the years in between. Which has a nice little mix. The 38 and 1 final four season, then a second round exit, an elite 8 loss on a last second shot to the National champs, then a sweet 16 loss, and another elite 8 loss in OT. Which then takes us up to the Covid post season cancellation year. 

Cal got his big contract for what he had accomplished prior to its signing with full expectations that more of the same would follow.  Didn’t happen or even come close.  His reluctance to change led directly to time for him to move on and for BBN to hope for different post-season results.  Reminds me a lot of my favorite player, Joey Votto.  What have you done for me lately?

10 hours ago, FrankNicodemus said:

So now you are Nostradamus, got it!

Go Big Blue!

By the way I’m ecstatic with the hire, and you can’t change my mind…. Let him coach!

Cool.

5 hours ago, Oldercoach said:

Cal got his big contract for what he had accomplished prior to its signing with full expectations that more of the same would follow.  Didn’t happen or even come close.  His reluctance to change led directly to time for him to move on and for BBN to hope for different post-season results.  Reminds me a lot of my favorite player, Joey Votto.  What have you done for me lately?

Which is I why I have acknowledged that the last 4 years hasn’t been good, and have even said numerous times on here that it was probably best for both parties to move on. Just cause I may defend Cal when people say and act like he is a horrible coach, or say things that may not be true. Doesn’t mean I don’t think it was it was time to move on. I think Cal was right the first year he got this job, the Ky basketball job is a max life of about ten years for a coach. 

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1 hour ago, futurecoach said:

Which is I why I have acknowledged that the last 4 years hasn’t been good, and have even said numerous times on here that it was probably best for both parties to move on. Just cause I may defend Cal when people say and act like he is a horrible coach, or say things that may not be true. Doesn’t mean I don’t think it was it was time to move on. I think Cal was right the first year he got this job, the Ky basketball job is a max life of about ten years for a coach. 

Could not agree with you more.  Covid, extra years eligibility, NIL, transfer portal are all developments that appear to have led to lots of great coaches retiring.  Cal had some great years on the court, he led a program that never seemed to have off court issues by the players, he led by example with both local, national and international humanity needs.  I think most of BBN wishes him well and much success except when they play the Cats.  Someone else said in another thread he deserves a 5 minute standing ovation the first time he brings the Razorbacks to Rupp.?

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