What does this mean to Bylaw 6 or is it Bylaw 16? No transfers and no exceptions? I guess it makes life easier for KHSAA if they don't deal with so many exception requests.

 

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3 hours ago, Cats25 said:

What does this mean to Bylaw 6 or is it Bylaw 16? No transfers and no exceptions? I guess it makes life easier for KHSAA if they don't deal with so many exception requests.

 

Bylaw 6. Yes, life should be easier for the KHSAA. Bylaw 6 has 11 exceptions. This new statute has none. Is the pupil a resident? If yes, ok to play. If no, sit out a year.

At first glance this is a very heavy handed rule that will significantly impact Public School to Public School transfers within the State of Kentucky.

 

What I am wondering:

1. Private Schools- This is a monster question. Are we now going to "define" a geographical district for Private Schools? How is that even possible? Also, are we now going to get into the debate that a parent shouldn't have the opportunity to go the private vs. public route when a private school is geographically accessible? 

2. Independent Schools- Once again, are we going to give a very clear definition of geographical district for an Independent School? For example will this mean anything consistent with a city limit sign or mailing zip code for schools like Pikeville or Elizabethtown where their district may overlap with County Schools? If you live within an overlapping District does this mean this rule does not apply to you and you are technically transferring within your own geographical district?

3. Magnet Schools- Speaking of confusing... will this now effect the eligibility of those choosing to enter a Magnet program? For example, if a girl is also a basketball player but she wants to utilize Louisville Central's magnet program for nursing though she lives in a district outside of Central, does this mean she will lose a year of eligibility? This is specifically concerning from a legal issue as you are potentially hindering opportunity for the student one way or the other. Either you are deterring students from pursuing magnet programs for academic purposes or you are costing a full year of athletic eligibility and potentially limiting athletic scholarship opportunities because a kid wants to pursue an academic path.

4. Out of State Students- Here is another tough one. Does this mean if a child comes to a school due to a legitimate move from out of state that they must forfeit a year of eligibility? That's a tall demand for families who move for a multitude of reasons... Millitary Assignments, changes in the home environment (divorce, death, foster care), or employment changes with the guardians. It seems at the very least there needs to be a lenient appeal process for this so if a change of address is legitimate that they can be eligible for a decision the child had no say in.

 

I'll be honest folks... it seems this amendment was not thought out at all. It seems this is an "quick fix" for kids bouncing around public schools and abusing the bonafide change of address process, but due to these exceptions above it is going to create a hornet's nest because you cannot enforce this rule equally.

4 hours ago, BlueRaider said:

I tried to scan the forum before I ask this question, but I just want to be sure... If a player changes residence to the district does this rule come into effect for him/her? Or is this just for those that live out of district?

Just out of district changing schools. If a pupil is a non resident but has always been in the school system, no problem. The rule comes into play when a pupil changes schools and is a non-resident in the new school district.

8 minutes ago, ATLCat said:

At first glance this is a very heavy handed rule that will significantly impact Public School to Public School transfers within the State of Kentucky.

 

What I am wondering:

1. Private Schools- This is a monster question. Are we now going to "define" a geographical district for Private Schools? How is that even possible? Also, are we now going to get into the debate that a parent shouldn't have the opportunity to go the private vs. public route when a private school is geographically accessible? 

2. Independent Schools- Once again, are we going to give a very clear definition of geographical district for an Independent School? For example will this mean anything consistent with a city limit sign or mailing zip code for schools like Pikeville or Elizabethtown where their district may overlap with County Schools? If you live within an overlapping District does this mean this rule does not apply to you and you are technically transferring within your own geographical district?

3. Magnet Schools- Speaking of confusing... will this now effect the eligibility of those choosing to enter a Magnet program? For example, if a girl is also a basketball player but she wants to utilize Louisville Central's magnet program for nursing though she lives in a district outside of Central, does this mean she will lose a year of eligibility? This is specifically concerning from a legal issue as you are potentially hindering opportunity for the student one way or the other. Either you are deterring students from pursuing magnet programs for academic purposes or you are costing a full year of athletic eligibility and potentially limiting athletic scholarship opportunities because a kid wants to pursue an academic path.

4. Out of State Students- Here is another tough one. Does this mean if a child comes to a school due to a legitimate move from out of state that they must forfeit a year of eligibility? That's a tall demand for families who move for a multitude of reasons... Millitary Assignments, changes in the home environment (divorce, death, foster care), or employment changes with the guardians. It seems at the very least there needs to be a lenient appeal process for this so if a change of address is legitimate that they can be eligible for a decision the child had no say in.

 

I'll be honest folks... it seems this amendment was not thought out at all. It seems this is an "quick fix" for kids bouncing around public schools and abusing the bonafide change of address process, but due to these exceptions above it is going to create a hornet's nest because you cannot enforce this rule equally.

Excellent post and I agree this was not thought out well at all, in fact, it looks like a disaster.

I am anxious to see the guidance the KHSAA puts out on this. 

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59 minutes ago, ATLCat said:

At first glance this is a very heavy handed rule that will significantly impact Public School to Public School transfers within the State of Kentucky.

 

What I am wondering:

1. Private Schools- This is a monster question. Are we now going to "define" a geographical district for Private Schools? How is that even possible? Also, are we now going to get into the debate that a parent shouldn't have the opportunity to go the private vs. public route when a private school is geographically accessible? 

2. Independent Schools- Once again, are we going to give a very clear definition of geographical district for an Independent School? For example will this mean anything consistent with a city limit sign or mailing zip code for schools like Pikeville or Elizabethtown where their district may overlap with County Schools? If you live within an overlapping District does this mean this rule does not apply to you and you are technically transferring within your own geographical district?

3. Magnet Schools- Speaking of confusing... will this now effect the eligibility of those choosing to enter a Magnet program? For example, if a girl is also a basketball player but she wants to utilize Louisville Central's magnet program for nursing though she lives in a district outside of Central, does this mean she will lose a year of eligibility? This is specifically concerning from a legal issue as you are potentially hindering opportunity for the student one way or the other. Either you are deterring students from pursuing magnet programs for academic purposes or you are costing a full year of athletic eligibility and potentially limiting athletic scholarship opportunities because a kid wants to pursue an academic path.

4. Out of State Students- Here is another tough one. Does this mean if a child comes to a school due to a legitimate move from out of state that they must forfeit a year of eligibility? That's a tall demand for families who move for a multitude of reasons... Millitary Assignments, changes in the home environment (divorce, death, foster care), or employment changes with the guardians. It seems at the very least there needs to be a lenient appeal process for this so if a change of address is legitimate that they can be eligible for a decision the child had no say in.

 

I'll be honest folks... it seems this amendment was not thought out at all. It seems this is an "quick fix" for kids bouncing around public schools and abusing the bonafide change of address process, but due to these exceptions above it is going to create a hornet's nest because you cannot enforce this rule equally.

So does that mean that if a student transferred from one school in Kenton County to another school in Kenton County they cannot play. What does district mean?

 

3 minutes ago, Horsepenny said:

So does that mean that if a student transferred from one school in Kenton County to another school in Kenton County they cannot play. What does district mean?

 

Also what if they transfer from a private school in Kenton County to a public school in Kenton County?

31 minutes ago, Horsepenny said:

Also what if they transfer from a private school in Kenton County to a public school in Kenton County?

I think they are ok because they live inside both districts. 

59 minutes ago, Horsepenny said:

So does that mean that if a student transferred from one school in Kenton County to another school in Kenton County they cannot play. What does district mean?

 

The law states "Any student who transfers enrollment from a district of residence to a nonresident district..." so with Kenton County, which (I think) still allows any student from within the school district to attend any high school, I would assume the amendment to the law does not have any real added effect on students transferring from, say, Dixie Heights to Scott.

For a school district that has district lines for each school, like Scott County and Fayette County, that may well be a different story.

I think the new language in the statute was more than likely written without any real time spent reviewing the actual details and implications that go along with the changes that were being made. 

34 minutes ago, Horsepenny said:

Also what if they transfer from a private school in Kenton County to a public school in Kenton County?

Assuming they are a Kenton County resident, and are transferring from a private school to their home district in Kenton County School District, then that clause does not apply, because, as written, it only applies to "Any student who transfers enrollment from a district of residence to a nonresident district."

I can say, at the very least, I would certainly see a good argument to be made in court for not having to sit a year in your scenario since the student is transferring to their resident district and not to a nonresident district, as the amendment specifically says it is pertaining to.

6 hours ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Assuming they are a Kenton County resident, and are transferring from a private school to their home district in Kenton County School District, then that clause does not apply, because, as written, it only applies to "Any student who transfers enrollment from a district of residence to a nonresident district."

I can say, at the very least, I would certainly see a good argument to be made in court for not having to sit a year in your scenario since the student is transferring to their resident district and not to a nonresident district, as the amendment specifically says it is pertaining to.

What if a parent worked for Kenton County district but did not reside in the district?

Just now, Horsepenny said:

What if a parent worked for Kenton County district but did not reside in the district?

Could they transfer from private to Kenton County?  

 

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