I think this is an excellent point....

 

There's at least one vote Smith won't get.

 

On his blog this week, Tulsa World sports writer John Hoover said Smith will "undoubtedly win the Heisman Trophy, thanks to ESPN's PR juggernaut. But he'll do so without my vote."

 

His reasoning? Smith "is a cheater."

 

"I have no room on my ballot for those who break the rules. I tried cheating once. I won. It felt like kissing a skeleton. Yes, I was getting kissed, but by what?"

 

Hoover pointed out that Smith took $500 from an Ohio State booster during his sophomore year and was suspended for the Alamo Bowl before being reinstated by the NCAA.

 

"Troy Smith cheated, and he does not deserve the Heisman Trophy," Hoover said. "Not in 2004, not now, not ever. The Heisman should remain above that and out of reach for those who don't follow college football's strictest rule."

Troy Smith imo deserves and will win the Heisman. I don't put much store in idiot writers/press/media, etc. that just want to sell papers or get listeners. JMO

I just thought of a question, I wonder if this guy voted for R. Bush last year for the Heisman :irked: :sssh: His (Bush's) family was part of the Pete Carroll Reality Co. housing plan.:sssh: :sssh: . Imo Bush deseved the honor last season but it just makes me wonder if this guy goes by "selective cheating" in his voting.:confused:

I dont think the Heisman vote has anything to do with wha happens off the field. Its who the best, most valuable player is. Right now Troy Smith fits the category.

I dont think the Heisman vote has anything to do with wha happens off the field. Its who the best, most valuable player is. Right now Troy Smith fits the category.

I disagree with that. Would you want a player that is being charged with murder or some other crime outside of college football to represent the best of the best in the sport?

Troy Smith is very deserving of the Heisman Trophy Award. He has been a class act all season and has represented Ohio State and college football very well. Smith was touted as the front runner for the award at the start of the season and has done nothing to hinder his chances of winning.

Smith seems to have turned his life in the right direction and has worked hard to do the things that were required of him, so I have no problem of naming him the Heisman Trophy winner.

I disagree with that. Would you want a player that is being charged with murder or some other crime outside of college football to esent the best of the best in the sport

 

You kinda went to extremes, but i agree with what your saying if in fact it is true.

Didn't this happen before Smith even started his freshman year? I could be wrong. By the way, I'm guessing news is a little slow around the Tulsa World this week so the writer had to come up with something.

So he took $500 two years ago and he still has to pay for it? I don't think so. If the NCAA declares he's eligable to play, then he should be eligable for the Heisman. If the NCAA is ok with his time served as a punishment, that should be ok for everybody. Especially some no name writer in Tulsa or wherever.

Didn't this happen before Smith even started his freshman year? I could be wrong. By the way, I'm guessing news is a little slow around the Tulsa World this week so the writer had to come up with something.

No after his sophomore regular season.

RP, I find it mildly ironic that you posted this on here. Troy Smith made a mistake and took $500. We get that. I don't think anyone said the winner of the Heisman Trophy has to be able to walk across the Hudson River to accept it. Let's keep things in perspective.

 

However, when JJ Redick was at Duke and his "mistakes" came up, you said people were being harsh and unfair. In some circles, JJ's "mistakes" would be viewed more harshly than a kid accepting $500.

 

Just food for thought.

 

Troy Smith will win the Heisman and should win the Heisman.

Didn't this happen before Smith even started his freshman year? I could be wrong. By the way, I'm guessing news is a little slow around the Tulsa World this week so the writer had to come up with something.

Whatever dude, Tulsa is a booming metropolis

So he took $500 two years ago and he still has to pay for it? I don't think so. If the NCAA declares he's eligable to play, then he should be eligable for the Heisman. If the NCAA is ok with his time served as a punishment, that should be ok for everybody. Especially some no name writer in Tulsa or wherever.

....A no name with a heisman vote

....A no name with a heisman vote

 

Doesn't make it right. If the NCAA is ok with him winning the Heisman, this guy should be too. Do you think all the past Heisman winners have had a clean record, even before winning?

RP, I find it mildly ironic that you posted this on here. Troy Smith made a mistake and took $500. We get that. I don't think anyone said the winner of the Heisman Trophy has to be able to walk across the Hudson River to accept it. Let's keep things in perspective.

 

However, when JJ Redick was at Duke and his "mistakes" came up, you said people were being harsh and unfair. In some circles, JJ's "mistakes" would be viewed more harshly than a kid accepting $500.

 

Just food for thought.

 

Troy Smith will win the Heisman and should win the Heisman.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: Great Post!!!