January 30, 20188 yr "Cause"? In quotations? So dudes being creeps and inequality in the industry are just "causes?" Are we not tired of suppressing these dirty little secrets? Just curious what issue would be so worthy of dropping the "..." I suppose I shouldn’t have used quotations since I wasn’t actually quoting someone. But the point I’m making is I’m tuning in to watch an awards show, not all this other stuff. They have the constitutional right to do it but they need to use other outlets to do it. And I also think many of them are simply grandstanding in front of their peers. I don’t have proof of that but just a feeling that a few want to be in the limelight on these special nights but don’t take it much further than that afterwards with their money and other actions. But my main point is these nights are for the awards and that’s the primary reason most people watch them.
January 30, 20188 yr It would help in these award shows, not only music but others such as the Oscars, if they would stick to the subject and reason they are holding the event and leave all the other non-awards topics out of it. Too many are grandstanding and posturing for a “cause”. Jeez, just show some highlights of the nominee, say a few nice or comical words about the individual, and announce the award winner. Then the winner should come up and give a short thanks speech and go sit down. It would make the evening go much smoother and easier to watch imo. Certainly they're free to talk about whatever they see fit. I'll always support their right to do so. However with that comes the realization that a lot of people don't care, and don't want to hear it. Frankly, I don't care what Kendrick Lamar thinks, I don't care what Beyonce thinks or Ed Sheeren, I don't care what Rose McGowan thinks, or Ashley Judd, or Tom Cruise, or Tom Hanks, or Oprah, or Meryl Streep, etc. Only reason I care to pay any of them even the slightest attention is to be entertained by their music or acting performances. Short of that, they serve no purpose in my life. I suppose I shouldn’t have used quotations since I wasn’t actually quoting someone. But the point I’m making is I’m tuning in to watch an awards show, not all this other stuff. They have the constitutional right to do it but they need to use other outlets to do it. And I also think many of them are simply grandstanding in front of their peers. I don’t have proof of that but just a feeling that a few want to be in the limelight on these special nights but don’t take it much further than that afterwards with their money and other actions. But my main point is these nights are for the awards and that’s the primary reason most people watch them. I don't know how else to put it; This is essentially "shut up and play," like we heard with Kap. Not trying to paint anybody any type of way. Them's just the optics.
January 30, 20188 yr I don't know how else to put it; This is essentially "shut up and play," like we heard with Kap. Not trying to paint anybody any type of way. Them's just the optics. If that's how you see it, that's cool. I simply don't really care about the lives of famous people. I watch a movie to be entertained. I listen to music to be entertained. I watch sports to be entertained. I don't care about the individuals in those fields, unless I personally know them, and I don't personally know any of them.
January 30, 20188 yr If that's how you see it, that's cool. I simply don't really care about the lives of famous people. I watch a movie to be entertained. I listen to music to be entertained. I watch sports to be entertained. I don't care about the individuals in those fields, unless I personally know them, and I don't personally know any of them. And I'm sure you're not alone in this thinking, but why, then, are athletes and entertainers transgressions made so public? If we don't care about them as people, why do stories about their history of sexual and domestic abuse continue to be published by the hour? Why do we have seven pages on LaVar Ball but seven threads about the actual games being played in the NBA? I feel like an atheist telling a christian that they can't pick and choose when the Bible applies to them.
January 30, 20188 yr And I'm sure you're not alone in this thinking, but why, then, are athletes and entertainers transgressions made so public? If we don't care about them as people, why do stories about their history of sexual and domestic abuse continue to be published by the hour? Why do we have seven pages on LaVar Ball but seven threads about the actual games being played in the NBA? I feel like an atheist telling a christian that they can't pick and choose when the Bible applies to them. I'm not a journalist or media member, you'll have to ask them.
January 30, 20188 yr I'm not a journalist or media member, you'll have to ask them. We can blame the media, but they write what gets clicks.
January 30, 20188 yr We can blame the media, but they write what gets clicks. You're right about that. People love negativity.
January 30, 20188 yr I don't know how else to put it; This is essentially "shut up and play," like we heard with Kap. Not trying to paint anybody any type of way. Them's just the optics. No "shut up and play" pretty much nails it. I watch movies for entertainment. I listen to music if I like the way the song sounds. These artists and athletes can protest, preach, ect... all they want and more power to them. But if they do I'm turning the channel. I typically only watch award shows when someone is performing that I want to see. I really don't care who wins what award because most of the time it isn't who I would pick anyway. So yeah, shut up and play or I'll find a rerun of Big Bang or something.
January 30, 20188 yr So if I've learned anything here, artists' and athletes' are incapable of and should avoid promoting a worthy "cause" because they are merely here for our entertainment? That pretty much get it? Is it because they're famous? rich? open to the possibility of a reality outside of that in which they live? Help me understand.
January 30, 20188 yr So if I've learned anything here, artists' and athletes' are incapable of and should avoid promoting a worthy "cause" because they are merely here for our entertainment? That pretty much get it? Is it because they're famous? rich? open to the possibility of a reality outside of that in which they live? Help me understand. Nope, that's not it at all. You're entirely missing the point. They can promote and do whatever they want. More power to them. They just need to understand that there's a very large segment of their potential audience that isn't interested in hearing their opinions on things. When you go through the checkout line at the supermarket, do you care what your cashier's thoughts on gender equality are? Maybe you do, and that's great if so, but me, I just want them to check my groceries out so I can get on with my day.
January 30, 20188 yr Nope, that's not it at all. You're entirely missing the point. They can promote and do whatever they want. More power to them. They just need to understand that there's a very large segment of their potential audience that isn't interested in hearing their opinions on things. When you go through the checkout line at the supermarket, do you care what your cashier's thoughts on gender equality are? Maybe you do, and that's great if so, but me, I just want them to check my groceries out so I can get on with my day. I go to the self-checkout if I want to avoid human communication. I've held back thoughts because "what if the audience doesn't care?" and I really hate that feeling, so if the cashier has some thoughts on a subject, even if it may be out of their wheelhouse, what's the harm in listening? Are those additional 30 seconds about human trafficking really such a nuisance to your viewing experience? If so, HERE are the people you should be mad at. They're the ones putting up the money so these no-nothings can spew their agenda-driven "causes." Like, we're tired of people giving a public speech when placed on the business end of a microphone. Is that not at least a little bit ridiculous? Why don't we just have one presenter sit behind a big desk with a gavel, and once everyone has had a chance to look at the winner as they walk across the stage to accept their award, and once the winner waves at the crowd to signify their thanks, the MC slams the gavel, a hush comes over the crowd, and on to the next one?
January 30, 20188 yr I have zero interest in sitting around listening to what a bunch of millionaires think on a particular topic. I just don't value their opinion what so ever. Now a co-worker or a friend wants to discuss it over lunch during our break or over a beer, then I'm all ears.
January 30, 20188 yr I go to the self-checkout if I want to avoid human communication. I've held back thoughts because "what if the audience doesn't care?" and I really hate that feeling, so if the cashier has some thoughts on a subject, even if it may be out of their wheelhouse, what's the harm in listening? Are those additional 30 seconds about human trafficking really such a nuisance to your viewing experience? If so, HERE are the people you should be mad at. They're the ones putting up the money so these no-nothings can spew their agenda-driven "causes." Like, we're tired of people giving a public speech when placed on the business end of a microphone. Is that not at least a little bit ridiculous? Why don't we just have one presenter sit behind a big desk with a gavel, and once everyone has had a chance to look at the winner as they walk across the stage to accept their award, and once the winner waves at the crowd to signify their thanks, the MC slams the gavel, a hush comes over the crowd, and on to the next one? They can do whatever they want and run award shows however they like. I won't be watching regardless, and it has nothing to do with the political or social causes they espouse. I don't find anything about award shows entertaining. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care what people I don't have any personal connection or relationship with think about ANY topic, it's not just limited to these political or social issues that seem to be the hot button right now.
January 30, 20188 yr Author They can do whatever they want and run award shows however they like. I won't be watching regardless, and it has nothing to do with the political or social causes they espouse. I don't find anything about award shows entertaining. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care what people I don't have any personal connection or relationship with think about ANY topic, it's not just limited to these political or social issues that seem to be the hot button right now. :clap:
January 30, 20188 yr They can talk about whatever they want. I won't be watching anyway. If by chance somebody is performing that I want to see, I won't watch waiting for their turn on stage. I can just check it out later on Youtube or Twitter.
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