I've been stewing on this since Richie went down, and with the next four games on the horizon, I think it's time to put the no huddle on the shelf for a while. Give the young guys time to get set, and stop making their job harder. And if Rich and Levi get back where they need to be, dust off the cobwebs. What say you???

Sounds good to me but I don't remember the last time Marvin was on BGP. If only he would read this. No but seriously I think that would be a good idea. The OL has enough problems picking up coverage/assignments as it is but I'm sure its a little tougher when you go no huddle.

The no huddle is never a good idea with a young inexperienced O-Line who doesn't really know the system. You've got to give them time to learn it, or you're setting yourself up for a huge fall.

From my perspective, I have never followed the logic of not huddling unless you are speeding the tempo up in the game. It does no good to get on top of the ball right after the ball is set yet wait another 15 seconds before you snap the ball (and the playclock is down to 3 seconds anyways).

It sure seems that there have been more 5 yard penalties for delay of game this year than last.

From my perspective, I have never followed the logic of not huddling unless you are speeding the tempo up in the game. It does no good to get on top of the ball right after the ball is set yet wait another 15 seconds before you snap the ball (and the playclock is down to 3 seconds anyways).

It doesn't allow the Defense to get the right personnel on the field.

It doesn't allow the Defense to get the right personnel on the field.

I realize that, but teams are now prepared as ever with it and unless you speed up the tempo it does not have near the same effect as it once did.

It doesn't allow the Defense to get the right personnel on the field.

:thumb: Correct.

From my perspective, I have never followed the logic of not huddling unless you are speeding the tempo up in the game. It does no good to get on top of the ball right after the ball is set yet wait another 15 seconds before you snap the ball (and the playclock is down to 3 seconds anyways).

 

It gives you the opportunity to look the defense over and change the play if you see something that can be exploited. In the other scenario, you don't have time to change the play, so if you're in a bad play you either have to take it or call a timeout. Of course, most teams that do huddle still get to the line with time to call an audible...

 

I think the no-huddle just sets a tempo, like you said. It sets an aggressive tone for your offense and doesn't allow the defense to regroup. It keeps them on their heels.

 

But, obviously, there are potential drawbacks.

I realize that, but teams are now prepared as ever with it and unless you speed up the tempo it does not have near the same effect as it once did.

If you don't get your pass rushers in there on a passing down because of the no huddle how are you prepared??:confused:

I realize that, but teams are now prepared as ever with it and unless you speed up the tempo it does not have near the same effect as it once did.

You are right also but most teams have players that play only in certain situations & the no huddle makes it difficult to get these players into the game allowing the offense to make plays with players out of position and creates bad matchups for the D.

The no huddle is never a good idea with a young inexperienced O-Line who doesn't really know the system. You've got to give them time to learn it, or you're setting yourself up for a huge fall.

Even the experienced players are having problems because so many of them are playing positions other than they are used to. Give em a huddle so they have time to think about their blocking assignments.

Of course, most teams that do huddle still get to the line with time to call an audible...

 

That is my biggest hangup with it. No team speeds to the line and looks at defense 30 seconds before the ball is snapped. It is just used for a longer break in between plays. They still get up to the line, I would guess by the same time as if they huddled.

 

And to address others, the nature of defenses is different these days. You have players like Merriman, et. al. that do both rush and pass cover the offense effectively. I still contend it is not as much of an advantage unless the tempo increases.

If you really want to get me going, let us talk about the teams that get up to the line and the entire offense (minus the o-line) looks over at the sidelines to get plays mid-way through the play clock :mad:

That is my biggest hangup with it. No team speeds to the line and looks at defense 30 seconds before the ball is snapped. It is just used for a longer break in between plays. They still get up to the line, I would guess by the same time as if they huddled.

 

And to address others, the nature of defenses is different these days. You have players like Merriman, et. al. that do both rush and pass cover the offense effectively. I still contend it is not as much of an advantage unless the tempo increases.

 

Yeah, but players like Sam Adams don't.