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Confederate conundrum: A symbol of NASCAR?

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I am an African American Male.

 

I am a NASCAR fan.

 

My favorite driver is Jeff Gordon.

 

I would not be caught dead at a track.

 

I have been in situations where my race was a threat to my health, and I know that 99% of fans at the track are not that type of people. But I don't think that I would feel totally comfortable, and able to enjoy myself. The history of the battle flag has been distorted, but like has been said in other posts, perception can be 9/10ths of reality. I agree that NASCAR should do things to help bring more minorities to the track, because there are many who are fans already. It doesn't have to be just drivers, although that would be the most visible area. Mechanics, or pit crews. Any area would be a good thing. I don't have all the answers, but we as Americans have a responsibility to ensure that we have the best society for all our citizens.

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I am an African American Male.

 

I am a NASCAR fan.

 

My favorite driver is Jeff Gordon.

 

I would not be caught dead at a track.

 

I have been in situations where my race was a threat to my health, and I know that 99% of fans at the track are not that type of people. But I don't think that I would feel totally comfortable, and able to enjoy myself. The history of the battle flag has been distorted, but like has been said in other posts, perception can be 9/10ths of reality. I agree that NASCAR should do things to help bring more minorities to the track, because there are many who are fans already. It doesn't have to be just drivers, although that would be the most visible area. Mechanics, or pit crews. Any area would be a good thing. I don't have all the answers, but we as Americans have a responsibility to ensure that we have the best society for all our citizens.

 

Have you ever been to a race?

Man, people are trying to ban everything these days. I am only 18 but I miss the way things used to be.

I am an African American Male.

 

I am a NASCAR fan.

 

My favorite driver is Jeff Gordon.

 

I would not be caught dead at a track.

 

I have been in situations where my race was a threat to my health, and I know that 99% of fans at the track are not that type of people. .

I guess that's the same reason I wouldn't go to a rap concert.

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Man, people are trying to ban everything these days. I am only 18 but I miss the way things used to be.

Like in the day when people were lynched because of the color of their skin?

Or when they had to ride in the back of the bus because their color meant they were not good enough to ride beside a white person?

Or when they were not allowed to eat in a restaurant because the pigment of their skin was a little too dark?

Or how about when people of color were thought of having no rights in voting for candidates that would serve them in political office?

 

I have no problem in stamping out racism and prejudice and the symbols that represent such.

 

As far as the rap concert comment, I have an equal problem with minorities that assume something about me just because I am white. I abhor rap songs that degrade women as some sort of plaything to do with what they want.

 

It MUST/HAVE TO go both ways with it.

Have you ever been to a race?

I have never been, but had a relative who has been to perhaps 15 races over the past few years. At all but one of those experiences for him, a negative racial incident occured. I would love to go to a NASCAR race, and even though like I said, probably 99% of the people there would never act like this, it is something that makes me want to second guess a decision to go. If NASCAR makes a consious move to help increase inclusion, which it seems like they are doing, I can see in the near future me, you, lbbc, and gotnogame all going to a race and then a rap concert together:ylsuper:

 

Kinda how like the World Cup this summer put an emphasis on its anti-racism stance in Europe. Not saying NASCAR needs to do something out front like that, but just getting people aware could help.

I have never been, but had a relative who has been to perhaps 15 races over the past few years. At all but one of those experiences for him, a negative racial incident occured. I would love to go to a NASCAR race, and even though like I said, probably 99% of the people there would never act like this, it is something that makes me want to second guess a decision to go. If NASCAR makes a consious move to help increase inclusion, which it seems like they are doing, I can see in the near future me, you, lbbc, and gotnogame all going to a race and then a rap concert together:ylsuper:

 

Kinda how like the World Cup this summer put an emphasis on its anti-racism stance in Europe. Not saying NASCAR needs to do something out front like that, but just getting people aware could help.

Let me say this Redneck Southern boy wouldnt have a problem at all with going to a race with you. My problem would not be the color of your skin but the 24 on your shirt.(Whats up with that?)LOL!
Like in the day when people were lynched because of the color of their skin?

Or when they had to ride in the back of the bus because their color meant they were not good enough to ride beside a white person?

Or when they were not allowed to eat in a restaurant because the pigment of their skin was a little too dark?

Or how about when people of color were thought of having no rights in voting for candidates that would serve them in political office?

 

I have no problem in stamping out racism and prejudice and the symbols that represent such.

 

As far as the rap concert comment, I have an equal problem with minorities that assume something about me just because I am white. I abhor rap songs that degrade women as some sort of plaything to do with what they want.

 

It MUST/HAVE TO go both ways with it.

 

Perhaps he was just referring to when freedom of speech still existed in this country. Let's try not to put words in others' mouths.

 

Why so quick to judge?

What does it really mean?

 

As I said, its irrelevant to NASCAR. They're not looking for a debate. They're looking to grow their business and may view this flag as an inhibitor. If your business gives off a negative perception to a group of potential fans, you have to make a decision that's best for the business.

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Perhaps he was just referring to when freedom of speech still existed in this country. Let's try not to put words in others' mouths.

 

Why so quick to judge?

I think it is fairly easy to judge what the "heritage" of the Southerners behind that flag over 100 years ago and following generations thought of minorities.

 

Or would you assume that a Nazi swatiska in Germany really doesn't mean anything.

Or would you assume that a Nazi swatiska in Germany really doesn't mean anything.

 

 

What? If they have a swastika flag they are just proud of their Aryan Race. They aren't racists. :p:D

Some have a Confederate flag who are representing their heritage, they may not have believed in slavery but did believe in other southern ways. Just as some have an American flag and believe in what this country stands for, but doesn't believe in the war in Iraq.

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Some have a Confederate flag who are representing their heritage, they may not have believed in slavery but did believe in other southern ways. Just as some have an American flag and believe in what this country stands for, but doesn't believe in the war in Iraq.

So do you think your argument will matter if you were to walk up and down the streets of Tehran waving the American flag proudly? Or do you think they will see you as just one of those Americans?

So do you think your argument will matter if you were to walk up and down the streets of Tehran waving the American flag proudly? Or do you think they will see you as just one of those Americans?

 

Are we talking about Tehran or America?

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