Police Taser suicidal man doused in Gasoline; setting him on fire

[theguru]

Only good option would be to hit him with a fire hose, but I'm betting that wasn't an option.

 

If this was a prolonged standoff and Fire Dept was standing by in case the guy caught the house on fire, the fire hose is a great idea. If this a spur of the moment thing, it really tough to figure out the appropriate action to take.

 

Seriously!? Trying to get the Fire Department (at least the one where I worked) to help the Police with any type of Law Enforcement Function was a complete non-starter. They always had some blanket legal statement for everything.

[theguru]

How often are those available?

 

This is the problem, for whatever reason most the Police Departments I am familiar with do not embrace the Bean Bag Gun.

 

Thinking back through all of my uses of force, which was many over the years, sometimes solo, often times with a group of Police Officers, many of the situations were better suited for a Bean Bag Gun only we didn't have one.

 

Simply put, I think every Police Officer should have a Bean Bag Gun in his vehicle.

[Wireman]

Shoot the hostages...

 

Get me Chris Sabian!!!

[Jumper_Dad]

Seriously!? Trying to get the Fire Department (at least the one where I worked) to help the Police with any type of Law Enforcement Function was a complete non-starter. They always had some blanket legal statement for everything.

 

Yeah that is a problem in some areas.

[plantmanky]

Only good option would be to hit him with a fire hose, but I'm betting that wasn't an option.

 

If this was a prolonged standoff and Fire Dept was standing by in case the guy caught the house on fire, the fire hose is a great idea. If this a spur of the moment thing, it really tough to figure out the appropriate action to take.

 

Then you drown the guy and they are in the same boat.

[littleluck55]

Getting hit with a taser is better than being shot, so...

 

I think I would rather be shot to death than burned alive. I wonder how bad he was burned?

[littleluck55]

Easy to judge from a keyboard with all the time in the world to consider your options.

 

Even considering options now, I don't see a good one.

[lawildcat]

Getting hit with a taser is better than being shot, so...

 

Except studies have been done to show that hitting someone doused in gasoline with a taser is absolutely going to set them on fire. I haven't been able to find anything regarding the reaction of a bullet.

[oldgrappler]

They were in Texas, for crying out loud! What would a Ranger do? Surely, Walker would have been able to defuse this situation.

 

And yes, I have been watching too much Grit TV.

[00Rocket28]

Except studies have been done to show that hitting someone doused in gasoline with a taser is absolutely going to set them on fire. I haven't been able to find anything regarding the reaction of a bullet.

 

Any taser training I've had says not to tase even after OC because it's flammable. I wouldn't have tasted the guy if I knew him to be covered in gas.

 

I'd say given a few minutes to mull it over, I take my Asp and try and crack him across the wrist to make him drop the lighter if I can get close enough.

 

The only guy soaked in gas I've dealt with was 30' up a pine tree :lol2:

[00Rocket28]

This is the problem, for whatever reason most the Police Departments I am familiar with do not embrace the Bean Bag Gun.

 

 

Simply put, I think every Police Officer should have a Bean Bag Gun in his vehicle.

 

One more thing for me to break or lose :lol2:

 

We actually have quite a few folks assigned bean bag guns.

[theguru]

Any taser training I've had says not to tase even after OC because it's flammable. I wouldn't have tasted the guy if I knew him to be covered in gas.

 

I'd say given a few minutes to mull it over, I take my Asp and try and crack him across the wrist to make him drop the lighter if I can get close enough.

 

The only guy soaked in gas I've dealt with was 30' up a pine tree :lol2:

 

I had the same training when we had oil based OC.

[theguru]

One more thing for me to break or lose :lol2:

 

We actually have quite a few folks assigned bean bag guns.

 

I just finished talking to a local police officer and same deal, for whatever reason the leadership is anti bean bag.

[lawildcat]

What is OC?

[theguru]

What is OC?

 

I'm sorry, Pepper Spray.