Marrying politics and Christianty is very harmful to Christianity. Jesus appears to have recognized his, however, I don't think the same could be said of the American Evangelical right.

 

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Pro-murder; pro-death, whatever. Yeah. It seems completely illogical in both cases. If you're pro-life, you shouldn't be distinguishing between babies and adults — all life is precious and sacred (or so I've been told). By the same token, yes, if you support abortion you should also support the death penalty.

 

I will say, however, that the pro-choice movement doesn't couch its argument in terms of death, so it's not as inconsistent if they don't support the death penalty as it is when pro-lifers say they support the death penalty.

 

So if I am pro life I should be against any type of necessary violence? For instance what about self defense?

So if I am pro life I should be against any type of necessary violence? For instance what about self defense?

 

I didn't say that. All I said is it seems illogical to say "I'm pro-life" yet be for the death penalty. It's a contradiction.

 

And since I know you're dying to pigeonhole me one way or the other — I support the death penalty, but with a moratorium until major reforms are made, and I consider myself against abortion in most circumstances. But I'm not terribly passionate about either — for good or ill, I recognize that life is pretty cheap.

I didn't say that. All I said is it seems illogical to say "I'm pro-life" yet be for the death penalty. It's a contradiction.

 

And since I know you're dying to pigeonhole me one way or the other — I support the death penalty, but with a moratorium until major reforms are made, and I consider myself against abortion in most circumstances. But I'm not terribly passionate about either — for good or ill, I recognize that life is pretty cheap.

 

I really wasn't trying to pigeonhole you. It does seem illogical but I guess I differentiate between an unborn child and a criminal.

I didn't say that. All I said is it seems illogical to say "I'm pro-life" yet be for the death penalty. It's a contradiction.

Not really. Abortion in most cases kills the innocent for the sake of the mother. The death penalty kills the criminal for the sake of the innocent.

 

For the record, I'm pro-life, anti-death penalty.

I really wasn't trying to pigeonhole you. It does seem illogical but I guess I differentiate between an unborn child and a criminal.

 

Then, technically, you and others of the movement are not pro-life. You are just anti-abortion.

Then, technically, you and others of the movement are not pro-life. You are just anti-abortion.

I am pro-life, but I think your anti-abortion label is probably correct for most.

Not really. Abortion in most cases kills the innocent for the sake of the mother. The death penalty kills the criminal for the sake of the innocent.

 

For the record, I'm pro-life, anti-death penalty.

 

It doesn't matter for whose sake the act is committed. If indeed "all life is precious," then that means ALL LIFE, no matter if it's a baby, an unborn, a teenager or adult, or someone who's killed 20 people. They're still all human beings.

Then, technically, you and others of the movement are not pro-life. You are just anti-abortion.

 

I can agree with that.:thumb:

Let me explain my view. First, I believe that if you're (the candidate) ok with killing unborn children, how can I expect you to get anything else right? And as you said, I don't vote strictly pro-choice, but look at many issues. However, abortion stance is weighted heavily. I give Pro-Life the most weight, Pro-Choice much less, and the guy/gal who says "I'm not for abortion, but I don't want to restrict a woman's choice" is obviously a waffler and gets no credit at all.

 

A half million American soldiers who died in 4 years might disagree with that.

 

Wouldn't have to vote for him. If he came up with such a plan, why couldn't it be implemented without him being in office?

 

I could not explain my beliefs any better than this...

If you're pro-life, you shouldn't be distinguishing between babies and adults — all life is precious and sacred (or so I've been told).

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For the record, I'm pro-life, anti-death penalty.

Same here

When ever I hear about the death penalty I think about the two teens from Trinity, or Mel Ignoto. (SP) I think that each case on death row is seperate and in that thinking I believe in the Death penalty.

Marrying politics and Christianty is very harmful to Christianity. Jesus appears to have recognized his, however, I don't think the same could be said of the American Evangelical right.

 

Wisdom is spoken here.

 

 

Frances

Wisdom is spoken here.

 

 

Frances

 

I hope you mean by Oldbird and not on this board in general.

Wisdom is spoken here.

 

 

Frances

 

 

 

Indeed, a very wise statement by Oldbird.