My ultimate solution would be to legalize all drugs. The money we are spending to fight the War on Drugs would then be used for treatment and rehabilitation. We would also stop paying private prisons to house non-violent drug offenders.

 

Also, the billions we currently dump on the War on Drugs could be funded by the taxes off the legal market.

 

Treatment and rehab will never work unless the addict wants it to.

 

Kentucky already has Casey's Law. It's basically a law that a family can use to force a family member into treatment. I've seen it used several times over the past few months. I have seen a ZERO percent success rate. The family member just agrees to go to get out of jail. Most leave within 48 hours of getting to the treatment facility.

I don't.

 

Overdoses are based on increased use by the user. If they aren't getting high from the same amount they did last week, they up the amount they are using. This is when most overdoses occur. They have the need to keep getting high and their tolerance builds over time to where they need a larger dose than prior uses.

 

Overdoses are currently being caused by impurities and many times not knowing the potency.

 

What you just said is blatantly false.

Treatment and rehab will never work unless the addict wants it to.

 

Kentucky already has Casey's Law. It's basically a law that a family can use to force a family member into treatment. I've seen it used several times over the past few months. I have seen a ZERO percent success rate. The family member just agrees to go to get out of jail. Most leave within 48 hours of getting to the treatment facility.

 

I'm familiar with Casey's Law.

 

1. It's hard to get a judge to sign-off on it.

2. If it's truly enacted its court-ordered minimum of 60 days. So if they are getting out in 48 hours there's a hole somewhere.

3. I have witnessed many an addict agree to rehab to avoid jail. I won't dispute that.

4. There are types of treatments that are having a higher success rate.

Overdoses are currently being caused by impurities and many times not knowing the potency.

 

What you just said is blatantly false.

 

Yes, heroine has been laced with fentanyl, which doesn't take much to kill you.

I do. I'd like to think that the government would be smart enough to not kill their customers. I think regulated legalized drugs would do wonders for our society in a lot of ways.

 

The idea of introducing another legalized additive drug is just plain wrong.

And when treatment is needed you ask society to pay for the treatment is crazy. I'm tired of paying for bad decisions.

The idea of introducing another legalized additive drug is just plain wrong.

And when treatment is needed you ask society to pay for the treatment is crazy. I'm tired of paying for bad decisions.

 

Paying for bad decisions is the American way of life. You pay taxes, right?

Paying for bad decisions is the American way of life. You pay taxes, right?

Sure I pay taxes. I pay a lot. I don't like the idea of paying for other people's stupid mistakes.

I'd rather get taxed on folks with cancer than those that choose to screw their lives up by doing drugs.

Sure I pay taxes. I pay a lot. I don't like the idea of paying for other people's stupid mistakes.

I'd rather get taxed on folks with cancer than those that choose to screw their lives up by doing drugs.

 

I'd rather get taxed for a lot of different things but no matter who we elect we get taxed for a lot of stupid things that are out of our control. Just the way it is.

I don't.

 

Overdoses are based on increased use by the user. If they aren't getting high from the same amount they did last week, they up the amount they are using. This is when most overdoses occur. They have the need to keep getting high and their tolerance builds over time to where they need a larger dose than prior uses.

 

Most overdoses do not occur because they raise the amount they are using.

 

Most overdoses occur because the heroin is cut with something. It's all classified as overdoses but most often people get completely screwed up because of the other crap that's mixed in, not the amount.

 

I see @formerkywrestler already hit that home, but I am leaving my post anyway.

Overdoses are currently being caused by impurities and many times not knowing the potency.

 

What you just said is blatantly false.

 

False? Not quite.

 

When a user is no longer getting high from their current dose, they increase the dose to obtain their high. That is a fact. Many times they use too much, that is a fact.

 

So now explain to me how any of that is blatantly false.

Most overdoses do not occur because they raise the amount they are using.

 

Most overdoses occur because the heroin is cut with something. It's all classified as overdoses but most often people get completely screwed up because of the other crap that's mixed in, not the amount.

 

I see @formerkywrestler already hit that home, but I am leaving my post anyway.

 

Not all heroin is being cut with fentanyl, carfentanyl, etc.

 

See my post #130

False? Not quite.

 

When a user is no longer getting high from their current dose, they increase the dose to obtain their high. That is a fact. Many times they use too much, that is a fact.

 

So now explain to me how any of that is blatantly false.

 

You didn't say many times.

 

You left out that thing that causes more overdoses than the amount of heroin. Laced heroin causes far more overdoses than people using too much. That's why its blatantly false.

Not all heroin is being cut with fentanyl, carfentanyl, etc.

 

See my post #130

 

Of course not all. And not all overdoses. But its face that the vast majority are because of that. Not due to an increases amount.

You didn't say many times.

 

You left out that thing that causes more overdoses than the amount of heroin. Laced heroin causes far more overdoses than people using too much. That's why its blatantly false.

 

So all the addicts that have told me otherwise over many years are lying. Got it.

So all the addicts that have told me otherwise over many years are lying. Got it.

 

Good point. An addict would never lie.

 

The lawmakers in KY didn't create HB 333 because people are using too much heroin and overdosing. They created that bill because too much laced heroin was causing overdoses and killing people.

 

Fentanyl and other opioids. HB 333 will create stronger penalties for trafficking in any amount of heroin, fentanyl, carfentanil or fentanyl derivatives, define prescribing authority, and allow the state to investigate prescribing irregularities and report those instances to appropriate authorities.