Savage

Thing is, he wouldn't have been physically harmed if he would have walked out on his own. That's why I feel no sympathy for him.

 

They could have very easily removed him from the plane without knocking out two teeth, giving him a concussion, and breaking his nose. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

I still wonder why if he was breaking the law (and I can see the argument that he was) wasn't he arrested? The 3 that removed him were employees of the Chicago PD and described as Aviation Officers. If they had the authority (and this may be in dispute) to physically remove the man surely that had arrest powers or at the very least could have detained him until an officer with arrest power got there.

I still wonder why if he was breaking the law (and I can see the argument that he was) wasn't he arrested? The 3 that removed him were employees of the Chicago PD and described as Aviation Officers. If they had the authority (and this may be in dispute) to physically remove the man surely that had arrest powers or at the very least could have detained him until an officer with arrest power got there.

 

I assume because they knew he didn't do anything that warranted arrest.

The airline admitted that the man did nothing wrong. If he did nothing wrong, he didn't deserve to be arrested or beaten half to death.

Here's the deal...once the man was on the plane, whether he should have been allowed to board or not in the first place (still some confusion on that) he could have avoided this whole situation by disembarking the plane willingly. Legally, by FAA rules as we now know, someone was coming off that plane to allow the needed flight crew to fly (like 3 others did), and he happened to draw the short straw. He didn't have to like it, and he could have expressed his displeasure vocally, but refusing to leave the plane was the instigating event. Now, if you do a root cause analysis, it could be argued that the basic root cause was something else, but the event could have STILL been prevented even with the root cause existing had the guy just complied.

 

I read yesterday an account by a witness that stated...and evidently this happened before everyone whipped out their phones and started recording...that one of the officers pretty much pleaded with the guy to leave the plane with them, and if he didn't it wasn't going to be pleasant for any of them. Guy still refused. I find that no different than if a cop pulls you for some violation and asks you to please exit the vehicle. You might not like it, and in YOUR mind you might not see a reason for it or agree with the reason, but you darn sure better exit the vehicle or it might not end pleasantly. If you were wronged in some way dispute it after the fact, but get out. Same here.

 

I had a CDL driving test scheduled for this afternoon. I get a call about 9:15 this morning that they (the state) needs to cancel because the examiner isn't qualified to give me the test I need. Yep I was more than a little perturbed because it's a hassle for me to get someone lined up to go with me who has a license, take time off work, etc., and this was the 2ND time the state has done this to me. But I drive down to the testing site anyway and demand the instructor come out and test me, it's my scheduled time and I'm going to test and I don't care what they say. How do you think that would go over? Same thing here. Things happen, sometimes you got to roll with the punches (pun not intended) whether you like it or not.

They could have very easily removed him from the plane without knocking out two teeth, giving him a concussion, and breaking his nose. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

 

He would have suffered none of those injuries had he not acted like a spoiled child.

Funniest line I've read on this site in a long long time. :lol2: :lol2:

 

Until this one!!

 

The airline admitted that the man did nothing wrong. If he did nothing wrong, he didn't deserve to be arrested or beaten half to death.

 

hyperbole much?

Who wasnt at fault?

 

United was at fault from the jump. Period. End of story.

Until this one!!

 

 

 

hyperbole much?

 

I mean they knocked out his death, gave him a concussion, and broke his nose....Sure sounds like a beating to me...:idunno:

I mean they knocked out his death, gave him a concussion, and broke his nose....Sure sounds like a beating to me...:idunno:

 

No. He was flopping around like a Duke player, remember?

Here's the deal...once the man was on the plane, whether he should have been allowed to board or not in the first place (still some confusion on that) he could have avoided this whole situation by disembarking the plane willingly. Legally, by FAA rules as we now know, someone was coming off that plane to allow the needed flight crew to fly (like 3 others did), and he happened to draw the short straw. He didn't have to like it, and he could have expressed his displeasure vocally, but refusing to leave the plane was the instigating event. Now, if you do a root cause analysis, it could be argued that the basic root cause was something else, but the event could have STILL been prevented even with the root cause existing had the guy just complied.

 

I read yesterday an account by a witness that stated...and evidently this happened before everyone whipped out their phones and started recording...that one of the officers pretty much pleaded with the guy to leave the plane with them, and if he didn't it wasn't going to be pleasant for any of them. Guy still refused. I find that no different than if a cop pulls you for some violation and asks you to please exit the vehicle. You might not like it, and in YOUR mind you might not see a reason for it or agree with the reason, but you darn sure better exit the vehicle or it might not end pleasantly. If you were wronged in some way dispute it after the fact, but get out. Same here.

 

I had a CDL driving test scheduled for this afternoon. I get a call about 9:15 this morning that they (the state) needs to cancel because the examiner isn't qualified to give me the test I need. Yep I was more than a little perturbed because it's a hassle for me to get someone lined up to go with me who has a license, take time off work, etc., and this was the 2ND time the state has done this to me. But I drive down to the testing site anyway and demand the instructor come out and test me, it's my scheduled time and I'm going to test and I don't care what they say. How do you think that would go over? Same thing here. Things happen, sometimes you got to roll with the punches (pun not intended) whether you like it or not.

 

Big V it's a reflection of society and a complete lack of respect for authority. From the example of police you mentioned, to officials, school teachers, parents, etc... it's an every body deserve a trophy the world revolves around me attitude. Do you realize the snowball effect this flight delay fiasco had on probably 1,000's of people and not just those on that particular flight? Exit the plane!!!

I mean they knocked out his death, gave him a concussion, and broke his nose....Sure sounds like a beating to me...:idunno:

 

Um I'm admitting there were injuries but half to death? Again just like the media hyperbole! What were the injuries to the 3 that did as instructed by law?

Um I'm admitting there were injuries but half to death? Again just like the media hyperbole! What were the injuries to the 3 that did as instructed by law?

 

Those 3 can compare bank statements with Dr. Dao later this year.

 

United was in the wrong. They are to blame. End of story.

No. He was flopping around like a Duke player, remember?

 

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