The Rust Belt rusted away Hillary's hopes. Would Bernie have been able to hold on to those traditional Democratic strongholds and kept the map blue enough to garner 270?

No.

Nobody beats Trump in 16. He already proved that. Mowed them all down.

Bernie is part of the Establishment. Part of what was rejected, Tuesday.

No, at one time I thought he might have but seeing the election the way it went I don't think Bernie would have won. Bernie vs Trump and the Billy Bush thing probably never comes out, Hillary would have just sat on that still mad that Bernie beat her in the Primaries.

Bernie is part of the Establishment. Part of what was rejected, Tuesday.

 

But he was perceived differently by many. Plus, Joe Biden is certainly establishment but a majority of people think he would have crushed Trump.

So is there no one living today that would taken your guy down?

So is there no one living today that would taken your guy down?

 

No one said that, now did they. Just that Bernie wouldn't have. Biden may have, probably would have and may in 4 years.

It is so hard to say. He would have been villified differently than Hillary. Republicans would have hammered him mercilessly in capital letters with their favorite word -LIBERAL. They would have called him too old and out of touch and questioned his health and on and on. It would have just been a different set of attacks.

 

The thing Bernie had working for him that would have hurt Trump is he is even more of a change agent than Trump. Independent voters could have been swayed toward him because of that and because of Trump's negatives. But, who knows. I definitely don't think it is clear cut that Bernie beats Trump.

No one said that, now did they. Just that Bernie wouldn't have. Biden may have, probably would have and may in 4 years.

 

Biden is establishment, though. I, too, believe that Biden would have won. Easily, in fact.

It is so hard to say. He would have been villified differently than Hillary. Republicans would have hammered him mercilessly in capital letters with their favorite word -LIBERAL. They would have called him too old and out of touch and questioned his health and on and on. It would have just been a different set of attacks. The thing Bernie had working for him that would have hurt Trump is he is even more of a change agent than Trump. Independent voters could have been swayed toward him because of that and because of Trump's negatives. But, who knows. I definitely don't think it is clear cut that Bernie beats Trump.

Bernie's a full blown socialist. Why would Trump have labeled him a liberal?

Bernie's a full blown socialist. Why would Trump have labeled him a liberal?

 

There you go. That would have been the word. SOCIALIST. Thanks Dino.

It is so hard to say. He would have been villified differently than Hillary. Republicans would have hammered him mercilessly in capital letters with their favorite word -LIBERAL. They would have called him too old and out of touch and questioned his health and on and on. It would have just been a different set of attacks.

 

The thing Bernie had working for him that would have hurt Trump is he is even more of a change agent than Trump. Independent voters could have been swayed toward him because of that and because of Trump's negatives. But, who knows. I definitely don't think it is clear cut that Bernie beats Trump.

 

 

I agree. Not clear-cut either way.

There you go. That would have been the word. SOCIALIST. Thanks Dino.

Glad to help out. Socialists wrecked western Europe, I think telling the truth about Bernie would have been devastating to his chances of winning the election.

IMO, no.