lawildcat Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Florida man killed in 'ironic' road rage incident - NY Daily News Fifteen years ago Florida native Gary Lynne Durham killed a man in a road rage incident and served 10 years in prison — on Wednesday he was killed in another traffic related dispute that the family of his victim are calling "ironic." Durham, 40, was fatally shot early Wednesday in Plant City, Fla., after he got out of his black Mazda pickup during rush hour and confronted a man stopped behind him in a Ford SUV. It’s unclear what led to the confrontation, but it escalated to the point that the Ford driver, 42-year-old Roger Padgett, pulled out his handgun and fired at least one round into Durham. Padgett called 911 and attempted to resuscitate Durham as he lay dying on the pavement, but he could not be saved. No charges have been filed against Padgett while investigators determine whether Florida’s self-defense laws will protect him, the Tampa Bay Times reported. He told a Tampa Bay Times reporter outside his home that the day of the killing had been “taxing.” Before Durham was a victim of a road rage dispute, he was the perpetrator of similar violence that put him behind bars for a decade. In October 2001, Durham got into a screaming match with Timothy James Gibbs, 48, a man behind the wheel of a nearby car. Durham pulled into a parking lot where Gibbs had stopped his car and the two men got into a verbal argument. Durham punched Gibbs once in the face, causing him to collapse and hit his head on the concrete. Gibbs died three days later of a brain hemorrhage and skull fracture, according to the Tampa Bay Times. “It’s a shame he didn’t learn his lesson while in jail,” Gibbs’ widow, Nancy Gibbs, told the Florida paper. “I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about him or running into him somewhere. It’s ironic that he died in the same way as my husband.” During a press conference on Wednesday, Col. Donna Lusczynski warned the public of the perils of road rage. “Don’t engage with people, it’s not worth it over some sort of traffic related incident, or you’re five minutes late to work or school, just drive by and ignore the person and don’t get into some type of confrontation, it’s not worth anybody’s life,” she said.
LRCW Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 10 years in prison would have cured me from road rage. Too bad it didn't this man.
BirdBrain Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 10 years in prison would have cured me from road rage. Too bad it didn't this man. My friend, 10 years in prison may have cured your road rage, but it certainly would have created a significant amount more rage in other areas of your life....
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 My friend, 10 years in prison may have cured your road rage, but it certainly would have created a significant amount more rage in other areas of your life.... Tremendous point.
Randy Parker Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I'll go with sad... Agree on sad, and I'll add "Florida" as well.
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I'll go with sad... Sad that a human lost their life? Sad that a guy had so little control over himself and his emotions, time and time again? Sad that he put another man in the ground due to his temper and lack of self-control? Sad that we wasted 10 years of tax-payers dollars to reform a cat that changed not one iota while in their care? Sad that a man now has to live, whether free or not, knowing he took the life of another man due to a traffic disagreement? All of the above?
TAC Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Florida man killed in 'ironic' road rage incident - NY Daily News Fifteen years ago Florida native Gary Lynne Durham killed a man in a road rage incident and served 10 years in prison — on Wednesday he was killed in another traffic related dispute that the family of his victim are calling "ironic." Durham, 40, was fatally shot early Wednesday in Plant City, Fla., after he got out of his black Mazda pickup during rush hour and confronted a man stopped behind him in a Ford SUV. It’s unclear what led to the confrontation, but it escalated to the point that the Ford driver, 42-year-old Roger Padgett, pulled out his handgun and fired at least one round into Durham. Padgett called 911 and attempted to resuscitate Durham as he lay dying on the pavement, but he could not be saved. No charges have been filed against Padgett while investigators determine whether Florida’s self-defense laws will protect him, the Tampa Bay Times reported. He told a Tampa Bay Times reporter outside his home that the day of the killing had been “taxing.” Before Durham was a victim of a road rage dispute, he was the perpetrator of similar violence that put him behind bars for a decade. In October 2001, Durham got into a screaming match with Timothy James Gibbs, 48, a man behind the wheel of a nearby car. Durham pulled into a parking lot where Gibbs had stopped his car and the two men got into a verbal argument. Durham punched Gibbs once in the face, causing him to collapse and hit his head on the concrete. Gibbs died three days later of a brain hemorrhage and skull fracture, according to the Tampa Bay Times. “It’s a shame he didn’t learn his lesson while in jail,” Gibbs’ widow, Nancy Gibbs, told the Florida paper. “I’m just glad I don’t have to worry about him or running into him somewhere. It’s ironic that he died in the same way as my husband.” During a press conference on Wednesday, Col. Donna Lusczynski warned the public of the perils of road rage. “Don’t engage with people, it’s not worth it over some sort of traffic related incident, or you’re five minutes late to work or school, just drive by and ignore the person and don’t get into some type of confrontation, it’s not worth anybody’s life,” she said. Not so sure I'd call this guy the victim of road rage this time either. Just because he got shot didn't mean he wasn't the aggressor.
UKMustangFan Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Sad that a human lost their life? Sad that a guy had so little control over himself and his emotions, time and time again? Sad that he put another man in the ground due to his temper and lack of self-control? Sad that we wasted 10 years of tax-payers dollars to reform a cat that changed not one iota while in their care? Sad that a man now has to live, whether free or not, knowing he took the life of another man due to a traffic disagreement? All of the above? Yes. :lol2:
Bluegrasscard Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 A ticking timebomb that just needed the fuse to be lit again. No ones fault. Doubt that road rage avoidance was part of his prison term. Just sad and its a good thing that another person did not die at his hand. Feel for him and the shooter.
BirdBrain Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Sad that a human lost their life? Sad that a guy had so little control over himself and his emotions, time and time again? Sad that he put another man in the ground due to his temper and lack of self-control? Sad that we wasted 10 years of tax-payers dollars to reform a cat that changed not one iota while in their care? Sad that a man now has to live, whether free or not, knowing he took the life of another man due to a traffic disagreement? All of the above? In fairness, I would agree with these, except this one. There is an extremely limited amount of attempted rehabilitation within the penal system of the US. The majority are just warehousing bodies until the parole board or God comes calling with a release. Criminal justice system in the US is completely broken as is the mindset of most of the people running these institutions....I would tie this together with the militarization of our law enforcement officers but that would start a whole 'nother discussion...again...
Voice of Reason Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Here is a question to consider... Will Mr. Padgett be charged with a crime? Difficult to say without knowing all the details but I lean towards yes. Unless the victim put his hands on Padgett or showed a weapon of his own that caused Padgett to feel his life was in danger, Padgett gets charged with a crime. A carry permit is not a license to shoot.
WhoozYoDaddy Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I call it Karma. My thought is that it is not necessary to wait until an aggressor lays hands on you to defend your life. One punch can be fatal and allowing someone to get close enough to get hands on you could easily be fatal as well. If there was hostility and a legitimate fear for one's life, no charges are merited.
littleluck55 Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Here is a question to consider... Will Mr. Padgett be charged with a crime? Difficult to say without knowing all the details but I lean towards yes. Unless the victim put his hands on Padgett or showed a weapon of his own that caused Padgett to feel his life was in danger, Padgett gets charged with a crime. A carry permit is not a license to shoot. Stand your ground law in Florida only require threatened use of force.
TAC Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Here is a question to consider... Will Mr. Padgett be charged with a crime? Difficult to say without knowing all the details but I lean towards yes. Unless the victim put his hands on Padgett or showed a weapon of his own that caused Padgett to feel his life was in danger, Padgett gets charged with a crime. A carry permit is not a license to shoot. I'm going with no. As you said we don't have a lot of facts but from what it looks, Padgett was in his car when Durham (can't call him a victim in this case if true) got out of his car and came after him? Throw in the fact he had a prior and it will be hard to convict one for self defense. Lot's of missing facts though.
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