New Black Panther Party forms Baton Rouge chapter

 

From the pics they have on military style black clothing. Some are saying the shooter and others had on the same. Could be just a coincidence.

It doesn't matter what the motive is or the race of the perpetrators...These officers as those in Dallas died protecting their community.

 

If they were ambushed and targeted due to someone's warped political agenda that makes them think killing the police is ok, then once again that is a sad statement for our country.

Guns fault, got it.

 

Do you? I am not so sure you do get it.

Saw this flash on NBC while watching the Open. Like a punch in the gut when it came up.

 

Will leave the analysis/blame for later. Prayers for the families of those killed today and for every LEO here at home and for the men and women and their families in the military and other services that are in dangerous places abroad.

How could police have prevented this? There are ALWAYS going to be officer involved shootings. There will be some that are questionable and some that are murder.

 

People say everyone needs to come together and that's great, but as soon as there's another shooting, justified or not, that looks questionable, we'll have more protests and more people wanting to kill police.

 

This is crazy. How many police have been shot and/or killed this month? 20+?

 

I didn't say that this could have been prevented. We all wish that this would never happen, but this planet is not a paradise.

 

I agree, sadly there will always be senseless murders on all sides, but rhetoric from both sides is not going to help. I also agree where you say that when there is another shooting it's going to start all over, and both sides with have some guilty parties. This is why the Israel can't find peace, as soon as their is a person or people from one side killing the other (in fact Israeli security foiled an attempted suicide bomber this morning) then the side that had the loss of life will want revenge, and it will never stop.

 

Yes, every loss of life is a tragedy, yes there are some out there specifically targeting LEO's, but the statistics don't show an increase is LEO deaths/murders. BUT, that's not saying that we shouldn't work hard to get these numbers down as far as possible.

 

There are a number of people who think that people are wrong in saying that more and more LEO's are either bad or racists, in fact a 2006 FBI report warned of white supremacists infiltrating the LEO ranks. BUT, the overwhelming majority of LEO's, all 1million plus of them, are honest and good! It's the 1% or whatever that are bringing all of the bad press.

 

Same as with any group that is protesting, BLM or whoever, most are good people with honest concerns, but a blanket statement that all of them are bad is only going to continue these tragedies. As the Dallas PD stated, the protesters and officers were talking, joking, posing selfies with each other, and ONE person not only ruined the peacefulness, but that one person injured many and killed innocent officers, who when the shots started, bravely ran towards the gunmen to save the lives of citizens.

 

A very sad short video that I saw from this past week, it was at the funeral of one of the Dallas officers, his 13 year old son, hugging the casket. IMO EVERYONE needs to see that video, if they are not moved by it, they aren't human. Same can be said of any death, regardless of who or what they are, their death has left a void in the lives of others.

 

This is where both sides need to come together, and address the concerns for all. Will the senseless killings stop! We can only hope, wish, pray, but we all know, again, that the world isn't a paradise.

 

Wouldn't it be amazing if all LEO's, soldiers, protection agents all lost their jobs because we became like a paradise and that everyone and everything were peaceful? Sadly we will never get there.

 

I don't have any issue with any LEO agency getting military type gear, as we can clearly see, a number of LEO's need it, but we don't know where this will happen next, so they all may need it, in every agency, such as the tragic murder in WKY of an LEO. And if I am mistaken, there was a second event where an LEO was shot at by someone who he just helped? This is where people have to understand, sadly this can and does happen anywhere, so people are going to have to come to reality that LEO's need to have heavy presence and armed with heavy power and protection.

 

The concerns on both sides needs to be addressed in a civil manner, and the blame game must stop, which will be the only way to curb this non-sense all the way around.

A very good point against open carry that I had not thought about previously.

 

What should police policy be? As I think about it, it seems a police officer should drive up close to the open carry person, remain in his vehicle and tell the person to put down his weapon, move away from it and lie on the ground. Next you have to tell the person to remain where he is while you wait for backup to secure the area and make sure a second person is not sitting in an ambush position. Police procedures are going to change.

 

Or open carry laws are going to go away.

 

Which choice is better?

 

If one sees a person open carrying, they are almost always the ones you do not need to worry about. In most case it's the weapons you don't see that one needs to worry about.

Of course but they are limited in what they can do, right? Are they then going to follow the guy around all day?

 

If the LEO's are trained properly, the LEO's can get a very good idea of the persons intent after a very short friendly encounter.

 

BUT, I've said this many times. All of the LEO and all in this country are going to have to use the Israeli approach and training. In fact, all of the citizens in the US needs to learn what every single Israeli knows in the area of protecting themselves and others, as well as what to look out for. Sadly it's this simple, if you need to rely on anyone else 100% of your protection, your a sitting duck.

Its not a new phenomenon. Police are expected to run faster, shoot better, be able to talk anyone down, defuse aby situation, solve any case, etc.

 

Yeah, a lot of idiots would blame police.

 

Personally I'd say "uninformed" people. Yes, some are idiots, but I'd say the majority simply do not understand what the LEO's do. As an example, about a year ago I posted a video of an LEO agency bringing in some of the community activists who were protesting against the police. They put these people in several situations where they had to make swift decisions it the person they encountered were good/bad, and if they were a threat. This showed these activists that the time that LEO have to make a very critical decision is very short. In fact, someone else posted that same video recently.

Police Officer sitting in his car in Milwaukee was also shot this morning, shooter then walked into a nearby yard and killed himself.

Like I said, police are being hunted.

Your words came to my mind as soon as I heard this. I'm afraid that you might be right.

Police Officer sitting in his car in Milwaukee was also shot this morning, shooter then walked into a nearby yard and killed himself.

 

I believe this happened at 2 or 3 this morning. Was the officer killed?, thought I heard he was injured

I believe this happened at 2 or 3 this morning. Was the officer killed?, thought I heard he was injured

I think he survived the ambush

Police Officer sitting in his car in Milwaukee was also shot this morning, shooter then walked into a nearby yard and killed himself.

 

Sad, headed towards where LEO's are going to have to team up, one LEO per car and two cars always together, to look out for each other.

Sad, headed towards where LEO's are going to have to team up, one LEO per car and two cars always together, to look out for each other.

 

yep

Obama about to speak again. Oh,Lord