Well there is an independent school I know of that gets kids to come to school there and the kid never pays out of county tuition because they play there or as some would say recruited there.

 

Tell us what you know.

I can't talk about the public side of things, but I know that at Trinity an independent third....

61.5 % of demonstrated need was this year's number. The only cap per KHSAA on financial based aid is it cannot exceed the tuition cost. Trinity cannot pay a family to send their son to Rock Heaven. :thumb: If The Trinity community would do a better job of fund raising- 100% of the need could be met. 2.8 million isn't a bad start. :popcorn:

61.5 % of demonstrated need was this year's number. The only cap per KHSAA on financial based aid is it cannot exceed the tuition cost. Trinity cannot pay a family to send their son to Rock Heaven. :thumb: If The Trinity community would do a better job of fund raising- 100% of the need could be met. 2.8 million isn't a bad start. :popcorn:

 

I meant that Trinity had capped it at 61.5% not the KHSAA. Though, I didn't know that 61.5% was only this year's number rather than a school rule.

Well there is an independent school I know of that gets kids to come to school there and the kid never pays out of county tuition because they play there or as some would say recruited there.

 

Anyone who knows of an infraction should report it to the KHSAA. If they don't they really have no right to complain as they are part of the problem.

Let me give you an example up here. Simon Kenton, Dixie and Scott are the 3 schools that make up the Kenton Co schools. Not only are they open enrollment and get tuition kids, they are also open enrollment within the county. That means that if you live in Kenton Co, you can go to whatever high school you want for free (of those 3 county schools) and regardless of which district you are assigned to. And their tuition is cheaper than the independent schools around it. So tell me again how they are at a disadvantage?

 

Dixie (9th Region) has a big advantage over Scott (10th Region) and Simon Kenton (8th Region), at least travel wise to Regional opponents. :lol2:

When paying tuition to enroll at a private school or an independent school, does it matter who writes the check as long as the tuition is paid ?? Say a stud athlete wants to play for a private school, but no way in the world can his family afford the tuition even at a reduced cost.. Can a fat cat donor write the check for the kid ??

When paying tuition to enroll at a private school or an independent school, does it matter who writes the check as long as the tuition is paid ?? Say a stud athlete wants to play for a private school, but no way in the world can his family afford the tuition even at a reduced cost.. Can a fat cat donor write the check for the kid ??

 

Pretty sure the KHSAA frowns on that...but I'm not 100% sure.

 

Glad to see you survived that crew you were on the lake with :lol2:

When paying tuition to enroll at a private school or an independent school, does it matter who writes the check as long as the tuition is paid ?? Say a stud athlete wants to play for a private school, but no way in the world can his family afford the tuition even at a reduced cost.. Can a fat cat donor write the check for the kid ??

 

No. For any school that's part of the KHSAA the tuition must be paid by an immediate family member.

 

The following is from Trinity's FAQ on financial aid.

 

"Q – As members of the Kentucky High School Athletic Association, are there rules Trinity must follow about tuition, financial aid and scholarships?

 

A – Yes. The Kentucky High School Athletic Association, an organization we voluntarily belong to, has four rules that apply to tuition, financial aid and scholarships. First, we must use an agency approved by the KHSAA to determine financial need. Second, a student playing a KHSAA sport may not receive aid greater than their “demonstrated need.” Third, only an immediate family member may pay the student’s tuition. Finally, if a student playing a KHSAA sport receives a merit scholarship, the amount cannot exceed 25 percent of the tuition."

No. For any school that's part of the KHSAA the tuition must be paid by an immediate family member.

 

A – Yes. The Kentucky High School Athletic Association, an organization we voluntarily belong to, has four rules that apply to tuition, financial aid and scholarships. First, we must use an agency approved by the KHSAA to determine financial need. Second, a student playing a KHSAA sport may not receive aid greater than their “demonstrated need.” Third, only an immediate family member may pay the student’s tuition. Finally, if a student playing a KHSAA sport receives a merit scholarship, the amount cannot exceed 25 percent of the tuition."

 

So some secret booster gives the "immediate family member" the cash, prepaid visa, etc etc etc.

What power does KHSAA have to attempt to prove where money came from?

i.e. require said family member to show bank statements(?)

I would not think that they have any.

So some secret booster gives the "immediate family member" the cash, prepaid visa, etc etc etc.

What power does KHSAA have to attempt to prove where money came from?

i.e. require said family member to show bank statements(?)

I would not think that they have any.

 

If a family is assessed for financial need, they must show financial documents such as bank statements and tax returns. If the 'secret booster' gave the money before the assessment then, they would receive proportionately less financial aid. If they gave money after the assessment then KHSAA would be aware that the money did not belong to the family.

 

And either way the IRS would have some pointed questions about the appearance of a large undeclared source of income.

 

This is putting aside the question of why the 'secret booster' wouldn't donate the money to the financial aid program which is perfectly legal and aboveboard.

If a family is assessed for financial need, they must show financial documents such as bank statements and tax returns. If the 'secret booster' gave the money before the assessment then, they would receive proportionately less financial aid. If they gave money after the assessment then KHSAA would be aware that the money did not belong to the family.

 

And either way the IRS would have some pointed questions about the appearance of a large undeclared source of income.

 

This is putting aside the question of why the 'secret booster' wouldn't donate the money to the financial aid program which is perfectly legal and aboveboard.

 

In theory: After the assessment, the family would be responsible for $X.

Family "friend" gives them $X to pay the tuition. Tuition is paid.

 

What power does KHSAA have to compel said family to do anything? They're "investigative powers" are somewhat limited.

Where did you get the money? I saved pop bottles.

No you didn't. Yes I did.

It's not on your bank statements. I kept it under my mattress.

No you didn't. Yes I did.

OK

 

IRS is a different situation. KHSAA could report their allegations to the IRS. It's up to the IRS whether or not they investigate. The KHSAA would have not be privy to any action taken or not taken by them.

 

The question still stands...

What real power does the KHSAA have to prove it?

In theory: After the assessment, the family would be responsible for $X.

Family "friend" gives them $X to pay the tuition. Tuition is paid.

 

What power does KHSAA have to compel said family to do anything? They're "investigative powers" are somewhat limited.

Where did you get the money? I saved pop bottles.

No you didn't. Yes I did.

It's not on your bank statements. I kept it under my mattress.

No you didn't. Yes I did.

OK

 

IRS is a different situation. KHSAA could report their allegations to the IRS. It's up to the IRS whether or not they investigate. The KHSAA would have not be privy to any action taken or not taken by them.

 

The question still stands...

What real power does the KHSAA have to prove it?

 

Getting money leaves a paper trail.

 

You returned enough pop bottles? Show the receipt.

You won big at the casino? You're required to report it.

Someone gave you a 'loan'? Let's see the documents.

 

The KHSAA doesn't have to prove that the money was gained through clandestine means, the family must show where it came from. If they can't or won't then the KHSAA can tell the school that the student can't play KHSAA sports. If the student does, the school team will be disqualified.

Can't I can give anyone a cash "gift" of up to $14,000 (in 2016) and not generate them any tax liability. Just so happens they may use it for tuition to help educate their children:sssh:

You can give someone a million dollars as a gift and it won't generate any tax burden for the recipient. Gifts are tax free regardless of the amount.

 

If if it is over $14k then you might have a gift tax burden yourself as the donor.