June 13, 201610 yr You do realize that there are semi automatic handguns, right? Sorry, non semi automatic hang guns. I'll be more specific next time.
June 13, 201610 yr ... Then better training would need to be implemented. That article states that most of the injuries come from suicides and accidental shootings.
June 13, 201610 yr And let me add this to the discussion... For all of you pretending that your hoarding of guns is for protection, I'm calling bologna. Then what are the other reasons if protection is not one of them? Edited June 13, 201610 yr by True blue (and gold)
June 13, 201610 yr You blamed the victims of violence, and just don't want to admit it. False. Me blaming the victims would have looked like this: "If you can't get out of the situation you are in, it's your fault and you deserve whatever happens to you." Suggesting that someone could re-evaluate things is not blaming the victims, unless your reading comprehension is just that terrible.
June 13, 201610 yr Nowhere did I blame the victim. You guys sure are good at trying to put words in everyone's mouth. What happens when she has a gun, the guy breaks down the door and takes the gun from her, then kills all four of them? Is that situation somehow better because she had a gun? If he breaks down the door then it's bang bang and he doesn't get the gun he gets two bullets.
June 13, 201610 yr Sorry, non semi automatic hang guns. I'll be more specific next time. So a revolver, which is a 1 pull, 1 shot weapon, is ok. But a semi-auto handgun, which is a 1 pull, 1 shot weapon is not ok. I think I've Got it now.
June 13, 201610 yr And let me add this to the discussion... For all of you pretending that your hoarding of guns is for protection, I'm calling bologna. Some is for protection, some for sport. Edited June 13, 201610 yr by True blue (and gold)
June 13, 201610 yr Then what are the other reasons if protection is not one of them? Because people just like having guns! And that is 100% fine by me, have as many guns as you want. My issue is with pretending the reason someone needs a boat load of guns is for protection, when the fact is they just like having guns.
June 13, 201610 yr If he breaks down the door then it's bang bang and he doesn't get the gun he gets two bullets. In a perfect scenario, yes. In a different scenario, she shoots him, maybe in the arm or somewhere else non-life threatening, he takes the gun and kills her and the kids.
June 13, 201610 yr Strawman, implementing longer waiting periods without a fully supporting the background system will not work. You just picked out my support for longer waits to argue. I had thorough background checks on my list which would obviously have to be financially supported.
June 13, 201610 yr You just picked out my support for longer waits to argue. I had thorough background checks on my list which would obviously have to be financially supported. How about making whoever the background check is for pay for the background check?
June 13, 201610 yr I would also like to add that I wouldn't mind a better education provided for those who want to purchase guns. Long instructions and classes. Especially on storing guns away.
June 13, 201610 yr So a revolver, which is a 1 pull, 1 shot weapon, is ok. But a semi-auto handgun, which is a 1 pull, 1 shot weapon is not ok. I think I've Got it now. I think we all clearly know which side of this you stand. Those us of that are willing to actually talk about this and come up with legitimate ideas can keep at it. If you want to offer up constructive rebuttals that might actually help then I'm willing to keep going. You seem to have all the answers about guns so bring something to the table. Sorry I'm not willing to accept evil is evil as the solution to our growing problem. Side note - I've spent way too much time on this today.
June 13, 201610 yr In a perfect scenario, yes. In a different scenario, she shoots him, maybe in the arm or somewhere else non-life threatening, he takes the gun and kills her and the kids. Couldnt you argue his intent was to harm them anyways, with or without a weapon.
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