5 years (figuring that most Freshmen Redshirt) at UCLA would cost a Non-Resident around $300K and California Residents around $170K.

 

By your calculations if UCLA is 1/3 out of state and 2/3 in state, then the new contract would take care of their football scholarship athletes for 73 years (no tuition increase) approx. 45 years given (cost going up) or there entire sports program for the next 15 to 20 years. Obviously that money will not go there, but just saying by your figures it would be plausible and could actually open up more money for the wanna be actors in Westwood.

I don't feel sorry for anyone. Don't hate the playa, Hate the game. I feel the same way when I pay a plummer to walk in my house. Such is life.

I don't hate any of them. Just don't think they should get paid.

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I just can't go down this path today. I don't have the time or the patience for it.

 

 

How much is tuition at UCLA? Those that have to pay their own way work much harder and longer than the pampered athlete with all the perks that go with his/her scholarship. Poor little college athlete on a scholarship, they have it so hard. Give me a break.

 

Do those regular students bring any income into the school based on the job they do?

If you'd have gotten on Ohio States Nike store for the past two years, the number on the jersey that is on there is number 15. It's just a weird coincidence that the past two seasons that number has been worn by star running back Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe it's just Ohio State, but it's also the case that Florida State's jersey on there is a number 4. That jersey is worn by Dalvin Cook.

 

But to stay on track, good deal for UCLA. Most recruits don't prefer Adidas.

I understand your point, but they are "paid" pretty well for their time.

In season Max = 20 hours

Off Season Max = 8 hours

 

Assuming the season is 20 weeks long and the off season is 32 weeks long, Athletes spend a max of 656 hours a year. It cost $34,000 per year to go to UCLA. Those athletes are making more than $51 an hour for their time. Not including the free cleats, gloves, gear, etc. Many get apartment stipends when they live off campus of around $600, but only pay $200 for living.

These guys are getting plenty. I am sure many of the students at the school would gladly trade 656 hours a year for a free education. Sorry, I just don't feel sorry for full scholarship college football players.

 

Do you really think that is all the hours a football player puts in? This is what the NCAA mandates what coaches can spend coaching them. Weightlifting, conditioning, study halls, etc are all "voluntary." The last poll I read which I linked, states football players put an average 44.3 hours a week in and softball players put 37.1 hours a week in.

Do those regular students bring any income into the school based on the job they do?

If you'd have gotten on Ohio States Nike store for the past two years, the number on the jersey that is on there is number 15. It's just a weird coincidence that the past two seasons that number has been worn by star running back Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe it's just Ohio State, but it's also the case that Florida State's jersey on there is a number 4. That jersey is worn by Dalvin Cook.

 

But to stay on track, good deal for UCLA. Most recruits don't prefer Adidas.

 

The fact the school makes money off of their athletic skills is what pays for that FREE EDUCATION and all the expenses it takes to support the schools sports programs.

 

Those regular students are paying their way through school which funds the equipment and facilities needed for their education.

 

So taking a different approach to it. Pay the football and basketball players because those are the moneymaking sports. What about the track athletes or baseball or any of the women's sports? Same pay as the previous two sports? They don't bring in anything close to the big two sports.

 

I'm just tired of hearing the athletes should get paid because they make the school money. The kids don't see the full compensation they get playing a sport.

The fact the school makes money off of their athletic skills is what pays for that FREE EDUCATION and all the expenses it takes to support the schools sports programs.

 

Those regular students are paying their way through school which funds the equipment and facilities needed for their education.

 

So taking a different approach to it. Pay the football and basketball players because those are the moneymaking sports. What about the track athletes or baseball or any of the women's sports? Same pay as the previous two sports? They don't bring in anything close to the big two sports.

 

I'm just tired of hearing the athletes should get paid because they make the school money. The kids don't see the full compensation they get playing a sport.

 

Not saying pay them, but maybe let them do endorsement deals?? Don't hold them captive essentially preventing them from making money. Only a certain percentage of these athletes make it pro, so they have a limited time that their likeness, image, or name is worth any money. College athletes don't have the time to hold a job and play their respective sport. There might be a "20 hour rule", but there are many activities that don't count towards that time. They're essentially doing 40-60 work weeks on football.

Do you really think that is all the hours a football player puts in? This is what the NCAA mandates what coaches can spend coaching them. Weightlifting, conditioning, study halls, etc are all "voluntary." The last poll I read which I linked, states football players put an average 44.3 hours a week in and softball players put 37.1 hours a week in.

 

I don't see a link.

Here is the documenthttp://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/20-Hour-Rule-Document.pdf

 

My point was about the players being paid money for playing. They are "paid" very well for their time with the cost of tuition, living, and eating. To the hours you posted, are these in season or out of season? Even if they put in 40 hours during the season, they don't the whole year.

 

Also, with weights and conditioning. If a coach is present, it counts. If a coach is not present, it is voluntary. Study hall does not count, but is also not a required activity for those that take care of their business academically.

I don't see a link.

Here is the documenthttp://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/20-Hour-Rule-Document.pdf

 

My point was about the players being paid money for playing. They are "paid" very well for their time with the cost of tuition, living, and eating. To the hours you posted, are these in season or out of season? Even if they put in 40 hours during the season, they don't the whole year.

 

Also, with weights and conditioning. If a coach is present, it counts. If a coach is not present, it is voluntary. Study hall does not count, but is also not a required activity for those that take care of their business academically.

 

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DI_GOALS_FARA_final_1.pdf

 

Here is the 2011 NCAA poll shows how many hours players use for academics and athletics. It also states athletes use as much or more time in the off season. Again, this was conducted by the NCAA. Again, the NCAA has mandated hours with coaches. Many, many hours are voluntary workouts conducted by the captains. And if you think they are voluntary, I have ocean front property in KY to sell you. And I can personally tell you, study halls were "voluntarily" mandatory also at our school whether you were on the dean's list or failing. The voluntary workouts and study hall all had sign in sheets.

 

I'm not debating whether they should get paid or not, but your figure of $51 an hour is not even close.

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DI_GOALS_FARA_final_1.pdf

 

Here is the 2011 NCAA poll shows how many hours players use for academics and athletics. It also states athletes use as much or more time in the off season. Again, this was conducted by the NCAA. Again, the NCAA has mandated hours with coaches. Many, many hours are voluntary workouts conducted by the captains. And if you think they are voluntary, I have ocean front property in KY to sell you. And I can personally tell you, study halls were "voluntarily" mandatory also at our school whether you were on the dean's list or failing. The voluntary workouts and study hall all had sign in sheets.

 

I'm not debating whether they should get paid or not, but your figure of $51 an hour is not even close.

 

This conversation has gone off course. Those guys may be putting in 40 hours in season, but they are not in the off-season. Assuming they are putting in 40 during the season and 20 during the off season, the are "making" around $24 an hour. That's pretty darn good "pay" for playing football.

 

I'm not saying schools don't skirt the rules because I know they do, but the college athlete is a victim card gets old for me.

This conversation has gone off course. Those guys may be putting in 40 hours in season, but they are not in the off-season. Assuming they are putting in 40 during the season and 20 during the off season, the are "making" around $24 an hour. That's pretty darn good "pay" for playing football.

 

I'm not saying schools don't skirt the rules because I know they do, but the college athlete is a victim card gets old for me.

 

The same poll the NCAA conducted says the athletes actually put the same or more hours in the off season. I didn't make it up. It comes from the NCAA. Your figure per hour is still too low.

Not saying pay them, but maybe let them do endorsement deals?? Don't hold them captive essentially preventing them from making money. Only a certain percentage of these athletes make it pro, so they have a limited time that their likeness, image, or name is worth any money. College athletes don't have the time to hold a job and play their respective sport. There might be a "20 hour rule", but there are many activities that don't count towards that time. They're essentially doing 40-60 work weeks on football.

 

Here is how that idea would play out...

 

Hey come to my school, last year our offensive line endorsed XYZ Block and Tile and received $5K each. No come to my school, we can guarantee a $10K endorsement deal with Alumni Paving each year for all of our Offensive Linemen...with an $5K if you start!

 

Son here at Oregon each player gets an endorsement deal for $20K from Nike and starters get their own shoe line plus 10% from each pair sold.

 

Let the bidding begin!!!

The same poll the NCAA conducted says the athletes actually put the same or more hours in the off season. I didn't make it up. It comes from the NCAA. Your figure per hour is still too low.

 

 

Those numbers are pretty close. The number listed in the Northwestern law suit was 1750 hours a year. Using that figure, UCLA players from California are making $19 an hour and $33 an hour for out of state students. It all depends on the school and the cost of the school that is being attended. The "Pay" could range from $5 to $35 depending on the cost of the school.

 

Why being a college athlete is a full-time job - Mar. 31, 2

The fact the school makes money off of their athletic skills is what pays for that FREE EDUCATION and all the expenses it takes to support the schools sports programs.

 

Those regular students are paying their way through school which funds the equipment and facilities needed for their education.

 

So taking a different approach to it. Pay the football and basketball players because those are the moneymaking sports. What about the track athletes or baseball or any of the women's sports? Same pay as the previous two sports? They don't bring in anything close to the big two sports.

 

I'm just tired of hearing the athletes should get paid because they make the school money. The kids don't see the full compensation they get playing a sport.

 

All college athletes should be paid equally.

Do you really think that is all the hours a football player puts in? This is what the NCAA mandates what coaches can spend coaching them. Weightlifting, conditioning, study halls, etc are all "voluntary." The last poll I read which I linked, states football players put an average 44.3 hours a week in and softball players put 37.1 hours a week in.

 

So if we use the average of in state versus out of state 5 years at UCLA would cost $250,000. Divided by 5 is $ 50,000 a year. How many 18-22 year olds make $50k a year while getting an education? Not bad even if the footballers have to put in that 4.3 hours overtime each week.