February 21, 201610 yr I'm sure Jim Schue backs Obama and he's the most extreme president of my lifetime --I'm 49 . So this " meet in the middle" crap usually means go to H___ Rep party , we hate you and we will not compromise . And they proceed to run to the press and cry the blues about how evil the opposition is . Good try, but I didn't vote for Obama either time. Rigid ideologues on both sides of the aisle are destroying this country. There's plenty of blame to go around.
February 22, 201610 yr I imagine the Dem powers are more than a little concerned about the lack of turnout so far.
February 22, 201610 yr Honestly, the hardcore conservative crap ain't working either. Might be a good time for people to get off their extremist ledges for the good of the freakin' country and meet in the middle. Holy cow someone eluding to compromise and potential consensus building. Jim Schue just made the most profound and significant statement of this current political circus. Curious as to why the candidates aren't talking about their "consensus building" strengths and how they plan to reach across the aisle..... Wait....sorry folks, we're getting ahead of ourselves!!! :bunny:
February 22, 201610 yr I'm guessing my vote will go to the lesser of the two evils if it's Trump vs. Clinton. Not sure which is which.
February 22, 201610 yr A while back, I pointed out that California has more electoral votes than 10 Great Plains states combined. Until prairie dogs get the vote, these state totals don't signify much in presidential elections. And Texas alone can offset New Mexico, Wisconsin, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. So...
February 22, 201610 yr And Texas alone can offset New Mexico, Wisconsin, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. So... Regardless of how you can break it down, there's no doubt that the current political makeup of the large states makes the national presidential electoral map a lot more favorable to Democrats than Republicans right now. While the Democrats really only have to battle it out in a few states to get an electoral victory, the Republicans have to win nearly every battleground state in order to secure victory. It's just a tough map right now with so many major population centers carry states to blue: California, New York, etc. The Democrats really only have to make sure they win Pennsylvania and Florida or Ohio and they win the contest. In 2004, John Kerry only managed to win 19 states, but he only finished 34 electoral votes behind President Bush. It's not an easy map for Republicans.
February 22, 201610 yr And Texas alone can offset New Mexico, Wisconsin, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. So... Regardless of how you can break it down, there's no doubt that the current political makeup of the large states makes the national presidential electoral map a lot more favorable to Democrats than Republicans right now. While the Democrats really only have to battle it out in a few states to get an electoral victory, the Republicans have to win nearly every battleground state in order to secure victory. It's just a tough map right now with so many major population centers carry states to blue: California, New York, etc. The Democrats really only have to make sure they win Pennsylvania and Florida or Ohio and they win the contest. In 2004, John Kerry only managed to win 19 states, but he only finished 34 electoral votes behind President Bush. It's not an easy map for Republicans.
February 22, 201610 yr Regardless of how you can break it down, there's no doubt that the current political makeup of the large states makes the national presidential electoral map a lot more favorable to Democrats than Republicans right now. Maybe. The electorate is changing though. Many who voted for hope and change have been disappointed in what that change has meant to them and their families/communities. Some of the light blue states are looking more and more purple as this election approaches. It took Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan.
February 22, 201610 yr Regardless of how you can break it down, there's no doubt that the current political makeup of the large states makes the national presidential electoral map a lot more favorable to Democrats than Republicans right now. While the Democrats really only have to battle it out in a few states to get an electoral victory, the Republicans have to win nearly every battleground state in order to secure victory. It's just a tough map right now with so many major population centers carry states to blue: California, New York, etc. The Democrats really only have to make sure they win Pennsylvania and Florida or Ohio and they win the contest. In 2004, John Kerry only managed to win 19 states, but he only finished 34 electoral votes behind President Bush. It's not an easy map for Republicans. And to affirm, the article points out: "The 20 states that Gallup classifies as solidly Republican or leaning Republican account for 152 electoral votes, less than the 187 accounted for by the 14 solidly or leaning Democratic states plus the heavily Democratic District of Columbia." It basically comes down to Florida, Pennsylvania, and either Ohio or Michigan+Wisconsin for the Democrats to get to 270.
February 22, 201610 yr And to affirm, the article points out: "The 20 states that Gallup classifies as solidly Republican or leaning Republican account for 152 electoral votes, less than the 187 accounted for by the 14 solidly or leaning Democratic states plus the heavily Democratic District of Columbia." It basically comes down to Florida, Pennsylvania, and either Ohio or Michigan+Wisconsin for the Democrats to get to 270. Exactly. And when Barack Obama won all of those states and stole a couple others in 2008, the electoral count looked like a landslide, even if the state-by-state count wasn't very far apart.
February 22, 201610 yr Author Here is something to look at. What was the crossover vote in South Carolina?
February 22, 201610 yr A while back, I pointed out that California has more electoral votes than 10 Great Plains states combined. Until prairie dogs get the vote, these state totals don't signify much in presidential elections. I have a BGP twin . Your wit alone is worth the price of a membership. You are on top of your game in these political threads.
February 22, 201610 yr Here is something to look at. What was the crossover vote in South Carolina? What's crossover vote, JJ?
February 22, 201610 yr Author What's crossover vote, JJ? Cant you vote in the South Carolina presidential election on either side? I think you can. As a matter of fact the reason I said something is I heard today that there was like 25/30% democratic crossover to the Republican vote. Said Trump got like 13/15%. Rubio about the same.
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