A gun owner in Connecticut was own carrying a pistol in a Subway restaurant. A police officer approached him and asked to see his permit (the man did have a legal permit to item carry). The man refused and asked the officer if he suspected him of being involved in a crime. The confrontation got pretty heated and the man ended up leaving without his sub but was not arrested. The State Attorney says that the officer had the right to ask for his permit and could have arrested him for refusing to show it. Gun advocates say that the law says that the officer has to see the person open carrying AND suspect them of a crime to detain them and ask for their permit. Who is right in this situation?

 

 

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Ahh it's Connecticut buddy, they don't allow open carry without a permit. He's lucky he's even allowed to have a gun there.

After reading the law the gun owner was correct. He was a jerk about it.

 

The weird part of the story was they wanted to check him because of an anonymous tip . Not about a crime , just someone saw him carrying. The store owner didn't call or have a problem until police came.

 

I think both sides could of handled it differently.

The last two post are interesting. In Conn you need a permit to open carry? From that you would think that the officer had the right to demand to see the permit.

 

But their law states that they have to be suspected of a crime? If this is true then I see no problem with the guy.

The last two post are interesting. In Conn you need a permit to open carry? From that you would think that the officer had the right to demand to see the permit. But their law states that they have to be suspected of a crime? If this is true then I see no problem with the guy.

 

Connecticut is a socialist state. You have to have a permission to carry open. In Ohio and Kentucky, free states you do not.

The last two post are interesting. In Conn you need a permit to open carry? From that you would think that the officer had the right to demand to see the permit.

 

But their law states that they have to be suspected of a crime? If this is true then I see no problem with the guy.

 

I think the officer reacted appropriately to respond to a call. But they weren't told of a crime so the burden to request the permit wasn't met. But the gun owner was intending to be a jerk from the start. Both parties could of handled it better.

If that is the law it is the law but I am SHOCKED that in Connecticut that is the law...

 

I am a big fan of the right to bear arms but it would not bother me for you to have to show your permit to a cop if asked. I am not sure of the harm in that.

If that is the law it is the law but I am SHOCKED that in Connecticut that is the law... I am a big fan of the right to bear arms but it would not bother me for you to have to show your permit to a cop if asked. I am not sure of the harm in that.

 

At the same time you realize in OH and KY and many other states, you can open carry without having to show anyone ID?

Seems like the officer was wrong but as pointed out, both could have handled it better.

I think the officer reacted appropriately to respond to a call. But they weren't told of a crime so the burden to request the permit wasn't met. But the gun owner was intending to be a jerk from the start. Both parties could of handled it better.

 

Agreed. That is one thing that dispatchers need to be trained at a but more, ask some specific questions. I don't think that this was the case in this one, but when getting a call about a gun, asking where is the gun goes a long way. Is the gun in a holster ect? What are they doing wrong?

 

If you are walking in Kroger open carry and your gun holstered, is the caller freaked out about it? Is the caller just wanting to be a jerk about it? Is it someone that dislikes you and wants to have the police stop you for no reason?

 

For the most part dispatchers that I know do a good job at asking these questions, if anything to let the officer(s) know what they are getting into. It's just a lot of the public do not understand that one can open carry, in most states.

At the same time you realize in OH and KY and many other states, you can open carry without having to show anyone ID?

 

I don't know the open carry permit laws in any state. I am just shocked in Connecticut that you don't have to show your permit to a cop if he/she asks. That one surprised me. I guess I don't know why if a copy asks to see it, you should not have to show it. There may be a good reason; I just cannot think of it...

I don't know the open carry permit laws in any state. I am just shocked in Connecticut that you don't have to show your permit to a cop if he/she asks. That one surprised me. I guess I don't know why if a copy asks to see it, you should not have to show it. There may be a good reason; I just cannot think of it...

 

I understand the reason. The same reason why Hispanic people didn't like the laws in the south west or people in NYC didn't like stop and frisk. If I'm not breaking the law my permits are none of your business.

 

But like I said the gun owner was a jerk.

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You do have to show it in CT, this guy should have been arrested based upon CT law for failure to ID. Either the cop didn't know the law, or didn't feel like taking the guy in.

I understand the reason. The same reason why Hispanic people didn't like the laws in the south west or people in NYC didn't like stop and frisk. If I'm not breaking the law my permits are none of your business. .

 

Exactly. No warrant, no probable cause, no business of his. Same reason you do not permit police to search your home or car even if you have nothing to hide. Let's not start a slippery slope of allowing police to stop and search out of whimsy.

Unbelievable any state would require a permit to exercise ones basic rights. I assume CT also requires a permit for one to vote?