ggclfan Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 I have watched bits of pieces of some of the bowl games to date and it seems like there is NOBODY in the stands at some of them. I cannot believe the TV ratings are that good for Washington - Southern Miss for example. It just amazes me that these games are profitable but I guess they must be. Does anyone know how the financing of these minor bowls work that they can have incredibly small crowds and still make money? Do they really get good TV revenue for Washington-Southern Miss or UC-SDSU?
Jumper_Dad Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Between title sponsor and TV money they make it work. Some schools are required to sell X amount of tickets if invited, that helps as well.
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 TV deals / rights are done on multi-year contracts, so bad TV numbers impact the renewal, not the original deal. Every school has to buy X-amount of tickets. Most schools lose their back-side on bowl games, but the exposure is worth it. Much like advancing in the NCAA tourney and schools having to eat very expensive ticket books if they don't sell enough. George Mason lost several hundred thousand dollars on their Final Four run, but then made it up with millions of dollars in increased giving to their Athletic foundation.
BigVMan23 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 TV deals / rights are done on multi-year contracts, so bad TV numbers impact the renewal, not the original deal. Every school has to buy X-amount of tickets. Most schools lose their back-side on bowl games, but the exposure is worth it. Much like advancing in the NCAA tourney and schools having to eat very expensive ticket books if they don't sell enough. George Mason lost several hundred thousand dollars on their Final Four run, but then made it up with millions of dollars in increased giving to their Athletic foundation. Man, I'd like to see those numbers cause I just can't fathom it costing anywhere near that much to do it.
theguru Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 This problem would be easily solved with an NIT like tourny for all the teams not in the real playoffs.
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Man, I'd like to see those numbers cause I just can't fathom it costing anywhere near that much to do it. An article on the subject: Forbes Welcome You can find many on the internet that talk about the cost of travel and purchasing Ticket Books that go unsold that the school has to guarantee. When Xavier made the Elite 8 run in WBB a few years ago the school lost well over $100,000 -- that was the joke each game, "who are we really rooting for?"
bugatti Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 There is also a misconception with how many people watch the NCAA basketball tournament compared to the bowl games. I can't remember the numbers, but people watch the bowl games at a much higher rate.
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 There is also a misconception with how many people watch the NCAA basketball tournament compared to the bowl games. I can't remember the numbers, but people watch the bowl games at a much higher rate. Really depends on how you want to slice it up. It isn't apples to apples because so many of the March Madness games overlap one another, and all fall onto only 10 days (forgiving the First Four) versus the drawn out Bowl period. Last year 233 million people watched a bowl game, but that undoubtedly includes a TON of duplication. The NCAA Tourney had a little over 100 million people watch on TV, so yes, lower, but again, not apples to apples. The College Football Championship game was 33 million viewers, the NCAA Championship game had 28.3 million viewers (highest in 18 years). The TV rights for March Madness totaled over $1.4 billion -- not sure on the Bowl total with 39 bowls last year, but I know that ESPN pays $470 million per year to air the three NCAA Football playoff games.
Big Slick Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 TV deals / rights are done on multi-year contracts, so bad TV numbers impact the renewal, not the original deal. Every school has to buy X-amount of tickets. Most schools lose their back-side on bowl games, but the exposure is worth it. Much like advancing in the NCAA tourney and schools having to eat very expensive ticket books if they don't sell enough. George Mason lost several hundred thousand dollars on their Final Four run, but then made it up with millions of dollars in increased giving to their Athletic foundation. I remember seeing an ad on local TV for college age looking people to sit in student section for VCU, free ticket and t-shirt for just coming to game. I also they heard they were recruiting local high schools for fans.
doomer Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Schedule a local favorite when possible eg. Birmingham bowl with Auburn. Not a good choice for Memphis who is basically playing a road game with an interim coach. I am not thrilled about it.
TIGER1988 Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 This problem would be solved with a full tournament too.
TIGER1988 Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I don't even see that post. It should read," This problem would be solved with a full tournament too"
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