Had this very situation in game mentioned above also. Was called O&B but didn't appear the inbounding team had possession ball was batted away into the backcourt

 

It was called incorrectly if the ball was not actually caught.

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It's that time again. Time for fans to be reminded/updated on the REAL rules vs the "fans" rules.

 

I'll break them out into groups .

 

#1 Basket interference/goaltending/backboard

 

A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference.

 

It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.

 

The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket. On most layups, the ball is going up immediately after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up, and is not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket.

 

Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference, nor is it goaltending, and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard, during a tap, or a try, so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot, and accidentally slaps the backboard, it is neither a violation, nor is it a technical foul.

 

The front, top, sides, and bottom of the backboard are all in play. The ball cannot legally pass over a rectangular backboard from either direction. The back of a backboard is out of bounds, as well as the supporting structures.

 

I wish they would change this one.

Please, please, please post the differences between High School and NFL rules in the Football Forum. And if you could make every high school football broadcaster read them that would really help too.

Had this very situation in game mentioned above also. Was called O&B but didn't appear the inbounding team had possession ball was batted away into the backcourt

 

 

It is O&B reason being if all 10 players are in front court. The offensive team has already established team control. So if the offensive team is taking the ball out of bounds and they try to throw it long and the offensive team touches the throw and it goes into back court it is O&B....That's gonna be a tough one for coaches to understand but that is the rule...

Had this very situation in game mentioned above also. Was called O&B but didn't appear the inbounding team had possession ball was batted away into the backcourt It is O&B reason being if all 10 players are in front court. The offensive team has already established team control. So if the offensive team is taking the ball out of bounds and they try to throw it long and the offensive team touches the throw and it goes into back court it is O&B....That's gonna be a tough one for coaches to understand but that is the rule...

 

You are incorrect if you are saying your play is a violation.

Had this very situation in game mentioned above also. Was called O&B but didn't appear the inbounding team had possession ball was batted away into the backcourt

 

 

It is O&B reason being if all 10 players are in front court. The offensive team has already established team control. So if the offensive team is taking the ball out of bounds and they try to throw it long and the offensive team touches the throw and it goes into back court it is O&B....That's gonna be a tough one for coaches to understand but that is the rule...

 

There is no team control during a dead ball.

 

A team is in control of the ball when:

1) When a player of the team is in control

2) While a live ball is being passed among teammates

3) During and interrupted dribble

4) When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in

 

Team control ends when:

1) Ball is in flight on try or tap for goal

2) Opponent secures ball

3) The ball becomes dead.

 

In your situation, even if all 10 players are in front court, for some reason the ball became dead and was being taken out of bounds. Once the ball is secured and live, team control exists.

9.9.1 SITUATION D: Team A is awarded a throw-in near the division line. A1’s throw-in is deflected by B1; A2 jumps from Team A’s frontcourt, catches the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt.

RULING: Backcourt violation on Team A. The throw-in ends when it is legally touched by B1. A2 gains player and team control in the air after having left the floor from Team A’s frontcourt, therefore having frontcourt status. As soon as A2 lands in the backcourt, he/she has committed a backcourt violation. The exception* granted during a throw-in ends when the throw-in ends and is only for the player making the initial touch on the ball (Rule 9-9-3). Straight from the case book.

9.9.1 SITUATION D: Team A is awarded a throw-in near the division line. A1’s throw-in is deflected by B1; A2 jumps from Team A’s frontcourt' date=' catches the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt. RULING: Backcourt violation on Team A. The throw-in ends when it is legally touched by B1. A2 gains player and team control in the air after having left the floor from Team A’s frontcourt, therefore having frontcourt status. As soon as A2 lands in the backcourt, he/she has committed a backcourt violation. The exception* granted during a throw-in ends when the throw-in ends and is only for the player making the initial touch on the ball (Rule 9-9-3). Straight from the case book.[/quote']

 

 

What is this in response to?

It is in fact a backcourt violation when an inbounds pass it touched in frontcourt and subsequently possessed in backcourt. Unlike what has been said in this thread.

Offensive kick

It is in fact a backcourt violation when an inbounds pass it touched in frontcourt and subsequently possessed in backcourt. Unlike what has been said in this thread.

Incorrect.

 

 

There is a key difference that you are missing.

9.9.1 SITUATION D: Team A is awarded a throw-in near the division line. A1’s throw-in is deflected by B1; A2 jumps from Team A’s frontcourt, catches the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt.

RULING: Backcourt violation on Team A. The throw-in ends when it is legally touched by B1. A2 gains player and team control in the air after having left the floor from Team A’s frontcourt, therefore having frontcourt status. As soon as A2 lands in the backcourt, he/she has committed a backcourt violation. The exception* granted during a throw-in ends when the throw-in ends and is only for the player making the initial touch on the ball (Rule 9-9-3). Straight from the case book.

 

It is in fact a backcourt violation when an inbounds pass it touched in frontcourt and subsequently possessed in backcourt. Unlike what has been said in this thread.

 

 

I think the confusion lies in the poor wording by the NFHS after they decided to say that team control exists during a throw-in. The purpose of that change was to eliminate free throws should the team throwing it in commit a foul during the throw-in.

 

The NFHS has made it clear subsequently that the old requirement of player control still exists.

 

The problem is the way they worded the rule. Had I never known the old rule nor the update from the NFHS then I, too, would say it's a backcourt violation.

 

It is not.

 

Sort of think of there being two versions of "team control."

 

It's confusing. I'ver ready hundreds of posts on officials forums regarding this and the poor wording has led to discussions with coaches and even amongst officials.

Something I see all the time is:

Shooting foul shots and the defensive player is on the low block, the offensive player on the next block up pretty much "bull rushes"/ pushes the low block player under the basket. I've seen it every single game. Made and missed foul shots. Is this not a foul? The low block player is trying to hold their ground and just gets drilled.