November 11, 201510 yr Correct. What if he were a rich white guy? We can do the what if game to death.
November 11, 201510 yr Didn't think you would answer that one. I love using your words. Forgive me. I thought he was a rich white guy already. The question is already answered wasn't it?
November 11, 201510 yr I love using your words. Forgive me. I thought he was a rich white guy already. The question is already answered wasn't it? No, he's a rich black guy.
November 11, 201510 yr Author Kill all that noise. I'm not discussing white privelige. You said the graduate student came from money and because of that he shouldn't be the face of the movement for maintaining healthcare for graduate students. I'm simply asking you if you'd have the same problem with me being the face of the white privelige doesn't exist movement. Would you have a problem with me being the face of the white privelige doesn't exist movement or is that fine if I champion YOUR cause since we agree? Even though I'n black. Would you say I can't be a part of the white privelige doesn't exist movement since I am black? I never said he couldn't be involved. I was strictly coming from PR or message stand point. I'd make the same argument about the female proffesor who made a full of herself. Would you not concede a black student from the inner city who has gone through the struggles we are discussing , wouldn't he bring stronger life experience and message. I now get what your trying to say. But in your example you leading the charge it doesn't exist actually would be more effective. No one cares if a white guy thinks white privilege doesn't exist.
November 11, 201510 yr No, he's a rich black guy. Word? Well then of course he identifies with the struggle. Carry on, brother!!!
November 11, 201510 yr I never said he couldn't be involved. I was strictly coming from PR or message stand point. I'd make the same argument about the female proffesor who made a full of herself. Would you not concede a black student from the inner city who has gone through the struggles we are discussing , wouldn't he bring stronger life experience and message. I now get what your trying to say. But in your example you leading the charge it doesn't exist actually would be more effective. No one cares if a white guy thinks white privilege doesn't exist. Truth. Yes. A black student from the inner city would be a better face of the movement from a PR standpoint. Absolutely. I would prefer someone who is passionate about the issue as the leader regardless of their background of PR.
November 11, 201510 yr Author Truth. Yes. A black student from the inner city would be a better face of the movement from a PR standpoint. Absolutely. I would prefer someone who is passionate about the issue as the leader regardless of their background of PR. If I'm being honest anytime I hear someone is from a wealthy background and is a habitual protestor on campus I roll my eyes. I don't know if this student for sure falls in that category but in my experience from college a kid who is rich and privileged who protests normally protests everything. It was my gripe with occupy wall street , black lives matter etc..., do not let these career protestors join your movement . They lIke to protest everything and will hurt credibility. Look no further in Yale where I think most people both left and right can agree these students made fools of themselves. Then there is a Freedom of Speech forum/Lecture on campus today that criticized these students lack of knowledge of freedom of speech. So what do they do, storm the lecture , harass the speakers and spit on multiple of them. Then it comes out one of the leaders of the Yale protests comes from a Wealthy family in Hartford, CT.
November 12, 201510 yr Word? Well then of course he identifies with the struggle. Carry on, brother!!! So only knowing his race, and his family net worth, you are willing to claim that he can identify with the "struggle"? If you are insinuating that just because he is black, he somehow inherently identifies with the "struggle" that is laughable.
November 12, 201510 yr So only knowing his race, and his family net worth, you are willing to claim that he can identify with the "struggle"? If you are insinuating that just because he is black, he somehow inherently identifies with the "struggle" that is laughable. It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.
November 12, 201510 yr Kill all that noise. I'm not discussing white privelige. You said the graduate student came from money and because of that he shouldn't be the face of the movement for maintaining healthcare for graduate students. I'm simply asking you if you'd have the same problem with me being the face of the white privelige doesn't exist movement. Would you have a problem with me being the face of the white privelige doesn't exist movement or is that fine if I champion YOUR cause since we agree? Even though I'n black. Would you say I can't be a part of the white privelige doesn't exist movement since I am black? Would you have a problem with me being the face of BLM, or is that another "black thing" that I don't understand. You seem to want to play both sides of the card here. On one side, you insinuate that race shouldn't play a factor and that you representing your fictitious movement in the quote above. On the other hand you imply that I don't understand "the struggle" because of my race. Or if i went around championing how "real the black struggle is," would you be fine with that, even though I couldn't possibly understand it because of my race... And again, the idea that a black person is inherently subject to some sort of struggle, completely independent of their socioeconomic status, is just comical.
November 12, 201510 yr Would you have a problem with me being the face of BLM, or is that another "black thing" that I don't understand. You seem to want to play both sides of the card here. On one side, you insinuate that race shouldn't play a factor and that you representing your fictitious movement in the quote above. On the other hand you imply that I don't understand "the struggle" because of my race. Or if i went around championing how "real the black struggle is," would you be fine with that, even though I couldn't possibly understand it because of my race... And again, the idea that a black person is inherently subject to some sort of struggle, completely independent of their socioeconomic status, is just comical. Nope. Not at all. I have openly supported Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal and their work for their beliefs in their causes. I don't see color at all in my personal life but when the Anglo-Saxon overtures on this board take over and discussion comes to a screeching halt then I'll happily throw on my Angry Black Man hat and go for what I know. Honestly, what the #blacklivesmatter movement needs is more white people such as yourself championing the movement to make it legitimate. Nobody believes or cares about it when black people champion it. It's just us complaining about stuff we refuse to fix. That whole black on black violence thing. Chicago. I'm sure you know about all of that though. What is really comical is you thinking you understand blacks and their socioeconomic status. THAT is comical. I love the assumption that because a black graduate student comes from money that he doesn't know the struggle. I love that you think the struggle is about socioeconomic status. If your posts suggested that you understand the black perspective I'd let you champion #blacklivesmatter all you want. Gametime understands the black perspective more than any white person on this board. He gets more upset with you all than I do. I expect this kind of blowback from white people. I've only been hearing it my whole life. That's why I say "it's a black thing. You wouldn't understand." Because you don't. No matter how hard you try. Or are you even trying?
November 12, 201510 yr I think it shows a general lack of responsibility and disregard for the numerous advantages and opportunities presented to him. If he is in his 3rd year of grad school, that's another story, but if he has been an undergrad for 7 years....then yikes. Kid needs to spend less time rabble-rousing and more time in the library. 7 years of college down the drain.
November 12, 201510 yr Nope. Not at all. I have openly supported Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal and their work for their beliefs in their causes. I don't see color at all in my personal life but when the Anglo-Saxon overtures on this board take over and discussion comes to a screeching halt then I'll happily throw on my Angry Black Man hat and go for what I know. Honestly, what the #blacklivesmatter movement needs is more white people such as yourself championing the movement to make it legitimate. Nobody believes or cares about it when black people champion it. It's just us complaining about stuff we refuse to fix. That whole black on black violence thing. Chicago. I'm sure you know about all of that though. What is really comical is you thinking you understand blacks and their socioeconomic status. THAT is comical. I love the assumption that because a black graduate student comes from money that he doesn't know the struggle. I love that you think the struggle is about socioeconomic status. If your posts suggested that you understand the black perspective I'd let you champion #blacklivesmatter all you want. Gametime understands the black perspective more than any white person on this board. He gets more upset with you all than I do. I expect this kind of blowback from white people. I've only been hearing it my whole life. That's why I say "it's a black thing. You wouldn't understand." Because you don't. No matter how hard you try. Or are you even trying? If were gonna talk assumptions, didn't you initially assume that it was a white kid based on his family's net worth? You claim that you don't see color at all in personal life, yet you maintain the idea that only members of a certain race can understand the "struggle." You made this very obvious when you said that I wouldn't understand because it was a black thing. Before a few minutes ago, you had no idea what race I was and I still haven't explicitly told you, yet you have formed an opinion, based on nothing, of my race.
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