Seems like a pretty STUPID idea to me.

The teams are SCHOOL TEAMS, comprised of students OF THE SCHOOL.

A home schooled kid is not part of that school community, family, student body, or whatever you want to call it.

If your kids want's to play a sport, there are rec leagues, select, aau or whatever.

If that is not good enough, then you have a decision to make. Send your kid to school and play sports, or don't. Seems pretty simple.

 

Now, there can be some sort of exception or special circumstances. I'm not sure if an action out of Frankfort is needed (because those always turn out well) or required. I would have thought that it could be something KHSAA could handle as a matter of eligibility.

i.e. the above referenced wheelchair bound student.

The comment states that they are receiving assistance from the school. So in this case, it would appear that home schooling was not necessarily a personal choice, but one dictated wholly or substantially based on the physical ability/inability to attend class on campus. Depending on the "assistance" being provided by the school, one could argue that the individual is a student of the school and eligible for the archery team.

 

I don't understand the private school arguments on here though. Did I miss something in here somewhere that said a home schooled kid could pick which school, to include a private school like CovCath? Or was that commentary because the bill was written so poorly that a loop hole exists that could be exploited in some way? I mean there is no explicit or implied right of anyone to attend our school, let alone play a sport for it. Public schools don't have that same argument.

Seems like a pretty STUPID idea to me.

The teams are SCHOOL TEAMS, comprised of students OF THE SCHOOL.

A home schooled kid is not part of that school community, family, student body, or whatever you want to call it.

If your kids want's to play a sport, there are rec leagues, select, aau or whatever.

If that is not good enough, then you have a decision to make. Send your kid to school and play sports, or don't. Seems pretty simple.

 

Now, there can be some sort of exception or special circumstances. I'm not sure if an action out of Frankfort is needed (because those always turn out well) or required. I would have thought that it could be something KHSAA could handle as a matter of eligibility.

i.e. the above referenced wheelchair bound student.

The comment states that they are receiving assistance from the school. So in this case, it would appear that home schooling was not necessarily a personal choice, but one dictated wholly or substantially based on the physical ability/inability to attend class on campus. Depending on the "assistance" being provided by the school, one could argue that the individual is a student of the school and eligible for the archery team.

 

I don't understand the private school arguments on here though. Did I miss something in here somewhere that said a home schooled kid could pick which school, to include a private school like CovCath? Or was that commentary because the bill was written so poorly that a loop hole exists that could be exploited in some way? I mean there is no explicit or implied right of anyone to attend our school, let alone play a sport for it. Public schools don't have that same argument.

 

The way the bill is written I don't see how they can stop it. If I'm not mistaken Tim Tebow played for a private school so a bill written with his name on it should include the LexCaths and CovCaths of the state.

I just read the bill and it doesn't sound like the CovCath scenario applies.

It says they can play for the public school for the district in which they reside.

 

So a kid that goes to CovCath or is home schooled, and doesn't have a blah blah team could play blah blah for Dixie since that's where they leave. But nothing that I read in the bill gives them any rights to doing anything at CovCath if they are home schooled.

As Clyde stated in the Julian Tackett thread.....if playing sports in high school is that important to you and your kid then you need to send your kid to school like everyone else. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

We don't often disagree, but here we do. They pay taxes in that district, they should be allowed to play in that district. Otherwise, maybe they should propose a bill to get a tax break on the amount of school taxes they pay. Just spitballing.

We don't often disagree, but here we do. They pay taxes in that district, they should be allowed to play in that district. Otherwise, maybe they should propose a bill to get a tax break on the amount of school taxes they pay. Just spitballing.

 

Private school parents pay taxes to the district. Should they also get the tax break? And I'll go back to the scenario I posited earlier. Using the same logic should a kid going to a private school be allowed to play for the public school in their district if their school doesn't field a team in their sport of choice?

We don't often disagree, but here we do. They pay taxes in that district, they should be allowed to play in that district. Otherwise, maybe they should propose a bill to get a tax break on the amount of school taxes they pay. Just spitballing.

 

Paying taxes in a district gives you the right to go to the school.

Going to the school gives you the opportunity to play sports there.

 

So would every parent sending their kids to private school also get the tax break since they don't send their kid to school in the district?

Or the senior citizens next door that don't even have grandkids in the district, shouldn't they get a tax break too?

Private school parents pay taxes to the district. Should they also get the tax break? And I'll go back to the scenario I posited earlier. Using the same logic should a kid going to a private school be allowed to play for the public school in their district if their school doesn't field a team in their sport of choice?

 

That seems to be the scenario that the bill addresses specifically.

If CovCath doesn't have an archery team, and Dixie (where my kid lives) does, they could join that team...

 

The way it is written...

 

It doesn't say anything about what if your district doesn't have it, regardless of private or home schooled.

Here is a real issue that can arise. I withdrawal my student to home school because he is ineligible, then as the home school he is now doing so well he is eligible.

 

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The greater argument is that there is no way to compare what they are doing in their homeschool "classes" in comparison to what the other students are doing in their classes. Doing weekly grade checks is required by the KHSAA to be able to participate. I can tell you that during any season Fall/Winter/Spring when I was checking grades @ my school, I was checking 400+ students every Friday & that was grades that I had @ my fingertips. This way, I would have to rely on the parent supplying me with the grades, NO THANK YOU, I have enough on my plate already trying to teach & run an athletic department without having to send out a bloodhound out to track down every Harry Hardluck & Sally Sobstorys grades every single Friday.

 

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Paying taxes in a district gives you the right to go to the school.

Going to the school gives you the opportunity to play sports there.

 

 

exactly right.

Private school parents pay taxes to the district. Should they also get the tax break? And I'll go back to the scenario I posited earlier. Using the same logic should a kid going to a private school be allowed to play for the public school in their district if their school doesn't field a team in their sport of choice?

 

Tax break is not the answer, but ADA money is where the answer lies. So public schools get a certain $ amount per head / per day for each kid sitting in their school. That ADA (Average Daily Attendance) money is what subsidizes the entire process.

 

When you live in a public district, but send your kid out of district, the public school typically does not allow that ADA money to travel with you, your district gets to keep that money. Look at that as 100% margin on ADA funding.

 

The district the kid lives in is getting tax dollars regardless...no issue there. The ADA money and it being released is always the issue in funding out of district items.

We don't often disagree, but here we do. They pay taxes in that district, they should be allowed to play in that district. Otherwise, maybe they should propose a bill to get a tax break on the amount of school taxes they pay. Just spitballing.

 

What district is a private school in?

What district is a private school in?

 

The private school isn't in a district. The students attending a private school all live within public school districts.

The private school isn't in a district. The students attending a private school all live within public school districts.

 

Exactly. That's just one of the issues I have with this proposal. It would open the doors for a free for all of kids choosing to play anywhere without attending that school.

I'm not for the bill, but as I've read it several times, it doesn't seem to be most of the end of the world scenarios that have been brought up in the thread.

If anything I'd think there would be smaller private schools that would like it.

 

It is pretty limited.

The student must be in non-public school or home schooled.

The private school can't have the extracurricular activity.

IF the school district that they actually live in has it, they can participate at that public school.

 

Can't see where it would impact a school like CovCath - where a non-CovCath student wanted to play there.

i.e. a home schooled kid couldn't tryout for their basketball team.

It COULD benefit a CovCath student wanted to join an archery team, that doesn't exist at CovCath. AND they live in Ft Mitchell, AND Beechwood has an archery team.

 

I'm thinking a school like Calvary Christian.

No Football. No Swimming.

 

If a kid there wanted to play football they could play at the public school in their district. Assume they live in Taylor Mill.

This student could play for Scott, or any of the Kenton Co schools in the open enrollment.

But that student couldn't say I want to play at CovCath or Highlands.

 

I still don't like it - except for cases like the wheelchair bound archery enthusiast example mentioned above somewhere.

 

Home schooling or attending a particular private school is a choice. Factor in everything in the choice and live with it. Life isn't always a buffet where you can pick only the things you like. Sometimes the menu says "no substitutions". That's just the way it is.