Yup.

 

I already pointed out where Central Kentucky actually is (Lebanon/Marion County). There is a geographical marker (placed by the STATE, no less) that calls Campbellsville University the center. And some say E'town because of the hub of roads.

 

EITHER way, Lexington is way way way way closer to Central Kentucky than Bowling Green, Owensboro or Russellville (three cities Tiger was claiming were actually Central Kentucky).

 

If someone wants to lump LOU-LEX-NKY together -- the Golden Triangle -- and then break it up (West, Central and East), sure, that could work.

 

But to say Owensboro IS CKY and Lexington is NOT (because Lex is actually NKY, even though plenty of places are closer to the state's northern border -- the river -- than Lexington) is beyond crazy.

 

I'm with you. I just think Tiger is one of those folks that never wants to admit he is wrong.

Kentucky Latitude and Longitude Map

 

Here you go one more time. This is a geographical map of KENTUCKY (The WHOLE state) and it is shaded in GREEN. Lexington is located approximately halfway between 84*W and 85*W and just NORTH of 38*N. EVERYTHING SOUTH of 38*N is SOUTH of Lexington. It may be due south, southeast, or southwest(the part you keep missing) but nevertheless IT IS SOUTH. As you look at the map you will see that approximately 75% of the state is SOUTH of Lexington. Walton would probably have less than 5% of the state NORTH and 95% SOUTH. Keep em coming. It just keeps getting better.

Counties (27) which extend further north than Fayette: Bath

, Boone, Bourbon, Boyd, Bracken, Campbell, Carroll, Carter, Elliott, Franklin, Gallatin, Grant, Greenup, Harrison, Henry, Jefferson, Kenton, Lawrence, Lewis, Oldham, Owen, Pendleton, Robertson, Rowan, Scott, Shelby, Trimble

 

That means 77.4 percent of the state (in terms of numbers of counties) is further south ... than the extreme northernmost tip of Fayette County (and Lexington is NOT located in the extreme northernmost tip of Fayette County).

 

HOWEVER, in terms of population, 75 percent of the state is NOT south of Lexington. No where close. Maybe 60 if we're lucky, but not 75.

 

Plus, as we pointed out, Louisville is NORTH of Lexington (a metro in its own right). So if we're using ONLY GEOGRAPHY (as you wish) ... if Lexington is NKY ... then Louisville IS too (because, you know, Louisville is FURTHER NORTH). You'd also have to include Morehead and Mt. Sterling, Frankfort, Georgetown, Shelbyville and Paris (six other cities which do no consider themselves north at all).

 

So you're including Owensboro in CKY "because it says so" and now forcing Frankfort-Georgetown-Morehead-Mt. Sterling-Paris-Shelbyville to the north (even though NONE of them considers themselves to be north).

 

You're plucking Louisville (and Owensboro, who nobody besides you thinks is CKY) out just for the sake of it (but ignoring YOUR OWN geography argument).

 

And when we pointed out Lexington is CLOSER to the geographic CENTER (and therefore, Central Kentucky) of Kentucky than three places you claimed were CKY (Owensboro, BG, Russellville), you ONCE AGAIN disowned/ignored your OWN geographic argument.

 

Pick and choose at your own will (or peril), I suppose.

Counties (27) which extend further north than Fayette: Bath

, Boone, Bourbon, Boyd, Bracken, Campbell, Carroll, Carter, Elliott, Franklin, Gallatin, Grant, Greenup, Harrison, Henry, Jefferson, Kenton, Lawrence, Lewis, Oldham, Owen, Pendleton, Robertson, Rowan, Scott, Shelby, Trimble

 

That means 77.4 percent of the state (in terms of numbers of counties) is further south ... than the extreme northernmost tip of Fayette County (and Lexington is NOT located in the extreme northernmost tip of Fayette County).

 

HOWEVER, in terms of population, 75 percent of the state is NOT south of Lexington. No where close. Maybe 60 if we're lucky, but not 75.

 

Plus, as we pointed out, Louisville is NORTH of Lexington (a metro in its own right). So if we're using ONLY GEOGRAPHY (as you wish) ... if Lexington is NKY ... then Louisville IS too (because, you know, Louisville is FURTHER NORTH). You'd also have to include Morehead and Mt. Sterling, Frankfort, Georgetown, Shelbyville and Paris (six other cities which do no consider themselves north at all).

 

So you're including Owensboro in CKY "because it says so" and now forcing Frankfort-Georgetown-Morehead-Mt. Sterling-Paris-Shelbyville to the north (even though NONE of them considers themselves to be north).

 

You're plucking Louisville (and Owensboro, who nobody besides you thinks is CKY) out just for the sake of it (but ignoring YOUR OWN geography argument).

 

And when we pointed out Lexington is CLOSER to the geographic CENTER (and therefore, Central Kentucky) of Kentucky than three places you claimed were CKY (Owensboro, BG, Russellville), you ONCE AGAIN disowned/ignored your OWN geographic argument.

 

Pick and choose at your own will (or peril), I suppose.

 

Let's recap. You NOW agree that Lexington is farther NORTH than approximately 75% of the rest of the state (geographically speaking ONLY).

Let's recap. You NOW agree that Lexington is farther NORTH than approximately 75% of the rest of the state (geographically speaking ONLY).

 

I NEVER argued that percentage.

 

HOWEVER, Louisville is one of those places which is ALSO more north than 75 percent of the state.

 

So if Lexington is NKY ... than Louisville is NKY (if we're doing geographically speaking only).

 

More people live south of Louisville than live south of Lexington, so how can Lexington be North but NOT Louisville.

 

In terms of geography (your argument), you can't honestly put Lexington in the north but not Louisville (especially, based on geography, when Louisville is closer or equal distance to some northern KY places than Lexington is).

 

Like I said earlier, it would be better to go the Golden Triangle approach (LOU-NKY-LEX).

 

So lemme get this straight:

- Louisville is MORE NORTH than Lexington, but Lexington is North (and not Louisville).

- Lexington is CLOSER to Central Kentucky, but Owensboro is considered CKY (and not LEX).

 

Again, you SAY you're using geography, but you're picking and choosing when the data/facts/lines are staring you in the face.

 

I have NO PROBLEM calling Lexington north based solely on geography (latitude and longitude lines) BUT you MUST include Louisville (because Louisville is more north based on those same lines your forcing Lexington to use).

 

And you don't want to put Louisville in the north because therefore it kills/deletes/erases one of your regions/areas that you came up with.

Let's recap. You NOW agree that Lexington is farther NORTH than approximately 75% of the rest of the state (geographically speaking ONLY).

 

no but I agree it is further north than the state of Florida

Does Lexington get Ch-5 news out of Cincinnati? I'mjust asking because they say they serve all of Northern Kentucky as well as southwest ohio and south east Indiana

 

So if they cover all of Northern Kentucky for their telecast I would take it if Lexington is part of Northern KY then they get to enjoy George Vogel and their Friday Night Blitz

Does Lexington get Ch-5 news out of Cincinnati? I'mjust asking because they say they serve all of Northern Kentucky as well as southwest ohio and south east Indiana

 

So if they cover all of Northern Kentucky for their telecast I would take it if Lexington is part of Northern KY then they get to enjoy George Vogel and their Friday Night Blitz

 

Don't know.

 

I know in E'town, we get the four Louisville TV stations (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX). Maybe one Lexington station (WKYT) and one BG station (WBKO).

 

So if it is based on which TV stations you get, E'town is officially northern Kentucky (since it gets TV from Louisville and Louisville is more northern than Lexington).

Don't know.

 

I know in E'town, we get the four Louisville TV stations (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX). Maybe one Lexington station (WKYT) and one BG station (WBKO).

 

So if it is based on which TV stations you get, E'town is officially northern Kentucky (since it gets TV from Louisville and Louisville is more northern than Lexington).

 

but Louisville doesn't get Norhern Ky tv stations, so it sounds like they are not northern ky

but Louisville doesn't get Norhern Ky tv stations, so it sounds like they are not northern ky

 

And now we've come full circle.

After reading this thread I have came to accept that if you not West of Kentucky Lake you are part of Eastern Kentucky

 

Case closed

I NEVER argued that percentage.

 

HOWEVER, Louisville is one of those places which is ALSO more north than 75 percent of the state.

 

So if Lexington is NKY ... than Louisville is NKY (if we're doing geographically speaking only).

 

More people live south of Louisville than live south of Lexington, so how can Lexington be North but NOT Louisville.

 

In terms of geography (your argument), you can't honestly put Lexington in the north but not Louisville (especially, based on geography, when Louisville is closer or equal distance to some northern KY places than Lexington is).

 

Like I said earlier, it would be better to go the Golden Triangle approach (LOU-NKY-LEX).

 

So lemme get this straight:

- Louisville is MORE NORTH than Lexington, but Lexington is North (and not Louisville).

- Lexington is CLOSER to Central Kentucky, but Owensboro is considered CKY (and not LEX).

 

Again, you SAY you're using geography, but you're picking and choosing when the data/facts/lines are staring you in the face.

 

I have NO PROBLEM calling Lexington north based solely on geography (latitude and longitude lines) BUT you MUST include Louisville (because Louisville is more north based on those same lines your forcing Lexington to use).

 

And you don't want to put Louisville in the north because therefore it kills/deletes/erases one of your regions/areas that you came up with.

 

Evidently, you have not read this ENTIRE post. Please go to POST #5 by ATLCat (whose opinion I respect) and you will see that Kentucky has been split into 5 regions for the sake of THIS conversation. While we (ATLCat and myself) differ on exactly what each region is made up of, we are talking 5 different regions.

no but I agree it is further north than the state of Florida

 

The sly GreyFox is out there on his own on this one.

Oh, the sly GreyFox is at it again. I will agree that by YOUR calculations, Lexington is not farther north than 75% of the state. IF you agree that your calculations do not consider anything west of E'town. Which would make up 1/3 or more of the state, is all SOUTH of Lexington, and therefore makes Lexington farther NORTH than approximately 75% of the state.

 

Do you consider Louisville to be part of Northern Kentucky? They are farther North than Lexington.

 

How about Owensboro? They are less than twenty miles south of Lexington (just considerably further West). That would put them above the majority of the state by your calculations, so are they also Northern Kentucky?

 

I'm with you. I just think Tiger is one of those folks that never wants to admit he is wrong.

 

Quite likely.

 

As you can see, this is how I see the regions of Kentucky. I have conceded that Owensboro should be included in Western KY. It makes divisions much more uniform. I am not about to argue just where each line should be (one county this way or that way), BUT this is VERY close. There are some counties you could flip one way or another along regional lines, but that is it.