October 21, 201510 yr Punter said his Aussie Football instincts took over. Says in that sport you continually try to move the ball down the field during kicks.
October 21, 201510 yr I'm wondering what the tie-breakers are in case of a 3-way tie. Hypothetically, if Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan all win out, with the exceptions of: OSU defeating Mich. State, and if the Wolverines happen to beat the Buckeyes in the regular season finale...you'd have 3 teams with 1 divisional loss. They'd also only have 1 conference loss, as well. And head-to-head-to-head would be 1-1 for everyone, too. I would assume that Michigan's loss to Utah would be the first tie-breaker, to eliminate them. Would it then revert back to the OSU-MSU head-to-head next? Does that sound about right?
October 21, 201510 yr I'm wondering what the tie-breakers are in case of a 3-way tie. Hypothetically' date=' if Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan all win out, with the exceptions of: OSU defeating Mich. State, and if the Wolverines happen to beat the Buckeyes in the regular season finale...you'd have 3 teams with 1 divisional loss. They'd also only have 1 conference loss, as well. And head-to-head-to-head would be 1-1 for everyone, too. I would assume that Michigan's loss to Utah would be the first tie-breaker, to eliminate them. Would it then revert back to the OSU-MSU head-to-head next? Does that sound about right?[/quote'] Sounds right without looking.
October 21, 201510 yr I'm wondering what the tie-breakers are in case of a 3-way tie. Hypothetically, if Ohio State, Michigan State and Michigan all win out, with the exceptions of: OSU defeating Mich. State, and if the Wolverines happen to beat the Buckeyes in the regular season finale...you'd have 3 teams with 1 divisional loss. They'd also only have 1 conference loss, as well. And head-to-head-to-head would be 1-1 for everyone, too. I would assume that Michigan's loss to Utah would be the first tie-breaker, to eliminate them. Would it then revert back to the OSU-MSU head-to-head next? Does that sound about right? Their loss to Utah would be irrelevant. Here's how it would be determined.... 1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other. 2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division. 3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7). 4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents. 5. The highest ranked team in the first College Football Playoff poll following the completion of Big Ten regular season conference play shall be the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of each other in the College Football Playoff poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game. 6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative. 7. The representative will be chosen by random draw. Not sure how it would ever get past step 5 though.
October 21, 201510 yr Their loss to Utah would be irrelevant. Here's how it would be determined.... 1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other. Under the scenario I proposed, they would all three be 1-1. 2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division. Again, all three would have the same record...each with 1 loss. 3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7). The would all be 4-0 4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents. Haven't looked up who plays who from the other division, but again, they'd all be undefeated in that regard. 5. The highest ranked team in the first College Football Playoff poll following the completion of Big Ten regular season conference play shall be the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of each other in the College Football Playoff poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game. So, unless the two highest ranked are side-by-side in the polls, this is where we'd get a "winner". 6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative. In what scenario would you ever get to this? Only way I could see it, is if all three teams are completely unranked. 7. The representative will be chosen by random draw. Not sure how it would ever get past step 5 though. I think you're right.
October 22, 201510 yr The game ain't over until the fat lady has a cigar. I can see several scenarios where MSU comes back to win although unlikely...however I don't know all the details. 1) fumbled snap and run in for TD (actual). 2) fumbled snap, UM recovery....MSU kicks FG then wins in OT. 3) punt return for TD. 4) punt return W/I FG range with a second on the clock...kick FG and win in OT. 5) MU runs it back into the end zone for a safety, kicks off and MSU runs back the kickoff for a TD.
October 22, 201510 yr The game ain't over until the fat lady has a cigar. I can see several scenarios where MSU comes back to win although unlikely...however I don't know all the details. 1) fumbled snap and run in for TD (actual). 2) fumbled snap, UM recovery....MSU kicks FG then wins in OT.3) punt return for TD. 4) punt return W/I FG range with a second on the clock...kick FG and win in OT. 5) MU runs it back into the end zone for a safety, kicks off and MSU runs back the kickoff for a TD. It was a 2-point game so they would have won on a last second FG if it was good.
October 22, 201510 yr In situations like that why don't teams just line their QB up in the shotgun and launch it as high and deep as they can? Assuming it doesn't go out of bounds, it'll take a good 6-7 seconds off the clock. If MSU is stupid enough to intercept it, the game probably ends on that play as they'd attempt to run it back (much like a punt), or if it falls incomplete there isn't enough time on the clock for MSU to run a play and get into FG range, so they'd have to throw one deep Hail Mary or try an impossible FG.
October 22, 201510 yr It was a 2-point game so they would have won on a last second FG if it was good. Oh...OK I thought as it finished 27-23 it must have been 20-23.
October 22, 201510 yr Oh...OK I thought as it finished 27-23 it must have been 20-23. I did as well. Forgot that there was no time left so I guess the NCAA, unlike the NFL, doesn't require the XP to be kicked.
October 22, 201510 yr Anyone notice the starting Safety for MSU was a freshman from Scott Co., Grayson Miller. Grayson Miller makes unlikely rise from unknown prospect to freshman starter for Michigan State | MLive.com
October 22, 201510 yr In situations like that why don't teams just line their QB up in the shotgun and launch it as high and deep as they can? Assuming it doesn't go out of bounds, it'll take a good 6-7 seconds off the clock. If MSU is stupid enough to intercept it, the game probably ends on that play as they'd attempt to run it back (much like a punt), or if it falls incomplete there isn't enough time on the clock for MSU to run a play and get into FG range, so they'd have to throw one deep Hail Mary or try an impossible FG. Sam Wyche sort of did that with the Bengals against the 49'ers. Didn't work out too well. (Granted he ran the ball instead, field position was a little different, and the 49'ers had some scrubs by the names of Montana and Rice.) Of course if the QB drops the snap or gets sacked (whether he fumbles the ball or not) everybody would be asking why he (the coach) didn't just punt the ball.
October 22, 201510 yr I think punting was the right decision with 10 seconds to go. It's easy to second guess after the punter folds and drops the ball. If there were 5 or less seconds, I could see trying to have the QB scramble around for 5 seconds and fall. BUT, if there's a penalty, the game can't end on a penalty and they still get a chance to win with a FG. The punter would have been better off attempting a pass than what he tried to do.
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