nkufan23 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Right now it's just preliminary talks but the Nats are looking for help in the pen. The Nats would get 1.5 years of control for the most elite big name closer in baseball. Not only would Chapman help the Nats or any team this year but they'd have him for next years pennant race as well and get a boost in attendance. If the acquiring team failed to extend Chapman they'd also receive a nice draft pick. With all that being said I'd hope that Aroldis could net the Reds at least one A level prospect position player and a couple B level prospects. Trea Turner would have to be included if I'm the Reds, then maybe Wilmer Difo and Rafael Bautista as the other pieces. Let the fire sale begin! Trade Chappy, Cueto and Leake and inject the system with some young and talented blood. I'd maybe work out a deal for Frazier as well, he'd bring back a nice haul right now as one of the top 3rd Baseman in the game and if teams want to take on Phillips and Bruce than ship them off as well. The Reds would go from having a middle of the pack farm system to easily being tops in baseball combining the top pitching that they already have and hopefully the abundance of bats they'd acquire via trade. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/06/nationals-reds-have-discussed-aroldis-chapman-trade.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Chapman is probably my favorite Red right now, if not favorite he's the only one I will stop what I'm doing to watch. That said, if the Reds aren't going to keep him, then they at least need to get something worthwhile back for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Isn't Trea Turner with the Padres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7ens Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I think the Reds can be divided into 4 categories right now: 1) The prime talent we need to keep: Leake, Frazier, Iglesias, Lorenzen, Boesch, Hamilton, Desclafani 2) The prime or post-prime talent we cannot move due to $$$$ reasons: Votto, Phillips, Bruce 3) The players we can move but not for blockbuster returns: Pena, Byrd, Negron, Mesoraco??? 4) Gone, baby, gone Chapman, Cueto We need to look to get more players from category 2 and 3 into category 4 and try to prevent having to put any from category 1. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkufan23 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Isn't Trea Turner with the Padres? Officially yes, but not for much longer. He was the PLayer to be named later in the 3 team swap that sent Myers to SD. Trea Turner Can Join Nationals This Weekend | VAVEL.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Why would Boesch be a guy they should keep? He's the worst player on the roster. I think Leake and Frazier should be in the 4th group as well. They could get a good return for both, specifically Frazier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkufan23 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 I think the Reds can be divided into 4 categories right now: 1) The prime talent we need to keep: Leake, Frazier, Iglesias, Lorenzen, Boesch, Hamilton, Desclafani 2) The prime or post-prime talent we cannot move due to $$$$ reasons: Votto, Phillips, Bruce 3) The players we can move but not for blockbuster returns: Pena, Byrd, Negron, Mesoraco??? 4) Gone, baby, gone Chapman, Cueto We need to look to get more players from category 2 and 3 into category 4 and try to prevent having to put any from category 1. Just my opinion. Boesch isn't prime time talent. Frazier is aging and it's a great time to capitalize on his monster season and friendly contract (he could net a haul IMO) and nobody would trade a bucket of sunflower seeds for Negron right now. Oh and Mes isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkufan23 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Frazier is the one guy I'd wait until after the all star game to trade if it's going to happen. All others should be shipped out for the best deal offered and as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7ens Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Boesch isn't prime time talent. Frazier is aging and it's a great time to capitalize on his monster season and friendly contract (he could net a haul IMO) and nobody would trade a bucket of sunflower seeds for Negron right now. Oh and Mes isn't going anywhere. 1) Could Boesch be an everyday outfielder for more than 10 MLB teams right now? I honestly am asking that, I think that there is talent and potential there. 2) Yeah we aren't gonna get anything for Negron but I wouldn't be surprised to see him be a part of a deal just to make it work (Janish). 3) Agreed on Meso. 4) I would hate to see Frazier go but you make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageJoesGym Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 1) Could Boesch be an everyday outfielder for more than 10 MLB teams right now? I honestly am asking that, I think that there is talent and potential there. 2) Yeah we aren't gonna get anything for Negron but I wouldn't be surprised to see him be a part of a deal just to make it work (Janish). 3) Agreed on Meso. 4) I would hate to see Frazier go but you make sense. Boesch might not be an everyday outfielder for 10 AAA teams right now. He's been with 3 organizations the last 3 seasons and the Reds are the only team to play him in more than 27 games. He's 30, he isn't getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All In Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Right now it's just preliminary talks but the Nats are looking for help in the pen. The Nats would get 1.5 years of control for the most elite big name closer in baseball. Not only would Chapman help the Nats or any team this year but they'd have him for next years pennant race as well and get a boost in attendance. If the acquiring team failed to extend Chapman they'd also receive a nice draft pick. With all that being said I'd hope that Aroldis could net the Reds at least one A level prospect position player and a couple B level prospects. Trea Turner would have to be included if I'm the Reds, then maybe Wilmer Difo and Rafael Bautista as the other pieces. Let the fire sale begin! Trade Chappy, Cueto and Leake and inject the system with some young and talented blood. I'd maybe work out a deal for Frazier as well, he'd bring back a nice haul right now as one of the top 3rd Baseman in the game and if teams want to take on Phillips and Bruce than ship them off as well. The Reds would go from having a middle of the pack farm system to easily being tops in baseball combining the top pitching that they already have and hopefully the abundance of bats they'd acquire via trade. Nats, Reds Have Discussed Aroldis Chapman Trade - MLB Trade Rumors Chapman will never be traded because of those 35,000 that show up to see him close with that 100mph fastball and to help get their little personal pan pizza from LaRosa's. Ownership will never trade any of those mentioned(Frazier,Bruce,etc.) because they are too well liked by owners and fans(except for the ones that have any sense, which are on this site) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Only an incredibly small number of people show up to games to watch Chapman. Trading him would have no impact on attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All In Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Only an incredibly small number of people show up to games to watch Chapman. Trading him would have no impact on attendance. Wish Walt and Castillenni thought that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The Reds can wait for the deadline with Chapman for someone to get desperate unless they are blown away by something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindoc Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The Reds can wait for the deadline with Chapman for someone to get desperate unless they are blown away by something. I think that's exactly what they'll do. And I'll be shocked if they pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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