Do I think someone could do something like that? While unlikely, absolutely. I don't think anyone would do it to the extent that they would severe their own spinal cord though. I don't even know if that's possible.

 

Agree with you.

Anyone think this guy could have been drugged up and did intentionally hurt himself in the van? Since the cops didn't beat him he decided to beat himself and kind of over did it?

 

I'm pretty sure a doctor has already said the injuries he sustained would be impossible to do himself...

Do I think someone could do something like that? While unlikely, absolutely. I don't think anyone would do it to the extent that they would severe their own spinal cord though. I don't even know if that's possible.

 

Nobody is going to potentially kill themselves to get a case on the cops. How is it worth it if they die?

Nobody is going to potentially kill themselves to get a case on the cops. How is it worth it if they die?

 

Might be worth it to the rest of his family, just saying.

Nobody is going to potentially kill themselves to get a case on the cops. How is it worth it if they die?

It's not and your right no one (well nearly no one) is going to try to kill themselves to make the police look bad. But people do in fact inflict injuries on themselves all of the time so that they can claim abuse. I'm not saying that's what happened in this case just speaking in general.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-freddie-gray-mosby-20150505-story.html

Police charges in Freddie Gray case are incompetent at best - Baltimore Sun

 

Wow!!

Shows a different view of things.

Police charges in Freddie Gray case are incompetent at best - Baltimore Sun

 

Wow!!

Shows a different view of things.

 

This entire process is going to be interesting.

That link says the knife was actually illegal.

I don't doubt for a minute that things have been overcharged hoping to see what sticks (as has already been said here). I also don't think that a prosecutor doing that is something that is exclusive to this case, as it happens fairly often.

I don't doubt for a minute that things have been overcharged hoping to see what sticks (as has already been said here). I also don't think that a prosecutor doing that is something that is exclusive to this case, as it happens fairly often.

 

Very true.

 

The sad part is, I truly think this was a political/playing to the crowd move on her part. While charges can be brought without taking them to a Grand Jury, we have that process in place for a reason.

Very true.

 

The sad part is, I truly think this was a political/playing to the crowd move on her part. While charges can be brought without taking them to a Grand Jury, we have that process in place for a reason.

 

I agree.

 

I'm not really sure the extent of what they knew and didn't know and whether or not it was something that was a foregone conclusion and the process was basically a formality given how easy it is to get an indictment, but if her motives were political and to play to the crowd, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

At the same time, I do think that the situation in Baltimore with the police there had gotten so bad over time (looking at the number of lawsuits that they've had and the reform that was obviously needed) that her hand was kind of forced on the issue somewhat as well. I don't think the officers were innocent, but I do think some of them were probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught out in a tornado.

 

Not saying it's right, just saying that things didn't reach this point overnight. There are some pretty damning stories and videos of Baltimore police out there and in general that kind of point to some deep institutional problems within the department and it had eroded to the point that it was a city with quite a few people from all types of demographics and different walks of life who were saying "enough is enough".

 

All that said, I'll be very surprised if all of the charges stick.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-freddie-gray-arrest-documents-drawn-up-for-wrong-people-20150504-story.html

 

I agree.

 

I'm not really sure the extent of what they knew and didn't know and whether or not it was something that was a foregone conclusion and the process was basically a formality given how easy it is to get an indictment, but if her motives were political and to play to the crowd, that wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

At the same time, I do think that the situation in Baltimore with the police there had gotten so bad over time (looking at the number of lawsuits that they've had and the reform that was obviously needed) that her hand was kind of forced on the issue somewhat as well. I don't think the officers were innocent, but I do think some of them were probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got caught out in a tornado.

 

Not saying it's right, just saying that things didn't reach this point overnight. There are some pretty damning stories and videos of Baltimore police out there and in general that kind of point to some deep institutional problems within the department and it had eroded to the point that it was a city with quite a few people from all types of demographics and different walks of life who were saying "enough is enough".

 

All that said, I'll be very surprised if all of the charges stick.

 

Stories about police aren't always true. I don't deny that they have been involved in a lot of lawsuits. Not arguing that. But you couldn't pay me enough money to be a cop there.

 

Anyone want to guess how long this process is going to take.