Ok. Some of you umpires. Jump on this. The way I understand it there is not a mandatory slide rule in HS baseball. Am I right?

Talking about on the way home? I believe there is no "railroading" in high school and under. Sliding is the rule in high school is my understanding.

Talking about on the way home? I believe there is no "railroading" in high school and under. Sliding is the rule in high school is my understanding.

 

I agree I do believe that is the rule.

Actually, There is no mandatory slide rule in High School baseball. If there is contact at the plate and the umpire feels it is malious in nature he can throw the runner out of the game, but the runner is not automatically out for not sliding. Somebody with a rule book either confirm or correct me on this.

Actually, There is no mandatory slide rule in High School baseball. If there is contact at the plate and the umpire feels it is malious in nature he can throw the runner out of the game, but the runner is not automatically out for not sliding. Somebody with a rule book either confirm or correct me on this.

 

You said there is no slide rule. If you're sure, why look for confirmation?

Actually, There is no mandatory slide rule in High School baseball. If there is contact at the plate and the umpire feels it is malious in nature he can throw the runner out of the game, but the runner is not automatically out for not sliding. Somebody with a rule book either confirm or correct me on this.

 

I have played baseball all my life, and I have always heard it was a rule that the runner had to slide not matter what if there was a play at the base, and this was especially true for any play at the plate. I know there has been a couple of games I have played in that a person wasn't trying to run over the catcher or anything but there was a play at the plate and there ended up being an ACCIDENTAL collision and the runner was ruled out and thrown out of the game since he didnt slide, even though everyone knew it was accidental contact.

 

So I know I really do believe that there probably is a rule saying that you have to slide if there is ANY chance of a play happening at the plate!

You said there is no slide rule. If you're sure, why look for confirmation?

 

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There is no such thing as a mandatory slide rule in high school. That is and has been a misperception. Players do not have to slide at any base at any time. Many younger umpires misinterpret this rule as well. There is not even a "true" no contact rule either. The gist of the rule, or rules, covering contact are that players may not initiate any type of contact with the defensive player which is seen as malicious in intent, or designed clearly to dislodge the baseball. This is primarily aimed at runners who are standing up and/or running through the play but I have even seen very rare instances when it was applied to a sliding situation. (And I do mean rare cases but I have seen it) The easiest way to avoid any such ruling against the runner is to slide, therefore the misperception that players "must" slide. In the event that a player does go in standing, there also is no automatic ruling that they are either out or out of the game. It is the umpire's interpretation of the intent of the runner as to how those situations are handled.

There is no such thing as a mandatory slide rule in high school. That is and has been a misconception. Players do not have to slide at any base at any time. Many younger umpires misinterpret this rule as well. There is not even a "true" no contact rule either. The gist of the rule, or rules, covering contact are that players may not initiate any type of contact with the defensive player which is seen as malicious in intent, or designed clearly to dislodge the baseball. This is primarily aimed at runners who are standing up and/or running through the play but I have even seen very rare instances when it was applied to a sliding situation. (And I do mean rare cases but I have seen it) The easiest way to avoid any such ruling against the runner is to slide, therefore the misconception that players "must" slide. In the event that a player does go in standing, there also is no automatic ruling that they are either out or out of the game. It is the umpire's interpretation of the intent of the runner as to how those situations are handled.

 

I agree with you about the rule, but I saw a umpire at the SK vs. NCC Doc Morris get on a SK player pretty good for not sliding into second in trying to break up a double play. One thing to remember, is if you don't slide and interfere with the flight of the ball (such as the second baseman or Shortstop tying to turn a double play) the batter is out at first also, because of interference. I am just surprised more SS/2nd basemen don't throw right at the runner to get the out, when the runner doesn't slide or doesn't gets out of the way of the of the fielders line of throw to first.

There is no such thing as a mandatory slide rule in high school. That is and has been a misperception. Players do not have to slide at any base at any time. Many younger umpires misinterpret this rule as well. There is not even a "true" no contact rule either. The gist of the rule, or rules, covering contact are that players may not initiate any type of contact with the defensive player which is seen as malicious in intent, or designed clearly to dislodge the baseball. This is primarily aimed at runners who are standing up and/or running through the play but I have even seen very rare instances when it was applied to a sliding situation. (And I do mean rare cases but I have seen it) The easiest way to avoid any such ruling against the runner is to slide, therefore the misperception that players "must" slide. In the event that a player does go in standing, there also is no automatic ruling that they are either out or out of the game. It is the umpire's interpretation of the intent of the runner as to how those situations are handled.

Very well stated and correct....just one point to add. If on a force play on the back end of a double play, the runner must either slide or run out of the baseline to avoid the throw to the next base (first or second). Going straight in to the bag standing up is automatic interference, and will result in an automatic double play for the defense.

 

(PS...As you mentioned, a smart infielder will not try to throw around the standing runner, but at him, which is very dangerous for the runner). But, I've seen it happen because HS players think that they have to break up the DP no matter what. I had a game situation several years ago when a throw on the back end of a DP (from 10 feet away) went off of a standing runner's helmet and went into the dead ball area on the fence side of first base on the fly. I hate to think what would have happened if the throw had hit the runner in the face.

 

PS...The result of the aforementioned play was a second out for interference, which ended the game. And, unbelievably,the coach tried to argue the call.

We had a play in our game yesterday at Walton. The Bearcat runner left his feet on a play at the plate. He did not jump directly into the catcher. The umpire said any runner leaving his feet is automatically out. He did not mention anything about the runner having to slide.

We had a play in our game yesterday at Walton. The Bearcat runner left his feet on a play at the plate. He did not jump directly into the catcher. The umpire said any runner leaving his feet is automatically out. He did not mention anything about the runner having to slide.

 

If the play was as described, that would be a new one on me.

There is no such thing as a mandatory slide rule in high school. That is and has been a misperception. Players do not have to slide at any base at any time. Many younger umpires misinterpret this rule as well. There is not even a "true" no contact rule either. The gist of the rule, or rules, covering contact are that players may not initiate any type of contact with the defensive player which is seen as malicious in intent, or designed clearly to dislodge the baseball. This is primarily aimed at runners who are standing up and/or running through the play but I have even seen very rare instances when it was applied to a sliding situation. (And I do mean rare cases but I have seen it) The easiest way to avoid any such ruling against the runner is to slide, therefore the misperception that players "must" slide. In the event that a player does go in standing, there also is no automatic ruling that they are either out or out of the game. It is the umpire's interpretation of the intent of the runner as to how those situations are handled.

 

Good job, Bulldog. This is one of those many myths in baseball. "Hands are part of the bat", etc.

We had a play in our game yesterday at Walton. The Bearcat runner left his feet on a play at the plate. He did not jump directly into the catcher. The umpire said any runner leaving his feet is automatically out. He did not mention anything about the runner having to slide.

This is covered in the rule book as well. A runner cannot leap or hurdle a defensive player unless he is prone (lying flat on the ground). If he does, he is automatically out. This is another safety rule to prevent injury.

This is covered in the rule book as well. A runner cannot leap or hurdle a defensive player unless he is prone (lying flat on the ground). If he does, he is automatically out. This is another safety rule to prevent injury.

 

Thanks for the udpate.