You will have also find many DII programs that you can walk on also..They also schedule JV games..

Them could be fighting word on BGPs. Lol.

So, is the dilemma that HE doesn't want to give up football, or that YOU don't want him to give it up? From what I can glean from your post, seems to me you are the one who has the issue of you son possibly not playing football beyond high school. If that's the case, I'd say you need to let it go and let him concentrate on school and academics, which it seems he is very good at.

 

Not even close. I honestly told him it wasn't an option, to move on and concentrate on academics after peewee ball. Pleasantly surprised at how well he's done in high school. Now that a coach or two has expressed interest and I've been telling him all along that it's not an option, I just feel bad - like I'm slighting him when I thought I was being honest. He wants to give back and coach youth football once his career is on track, and I think he has a TON of ability to do so. But IF he can play, should he?

Not even close. I honestly told him it wasn't an option, to move on and concentrate on academics after peewee ball. Pleasantly surprised at how well he's done in high school. Now that a coach or two has expressed interest and I've been telling him all along that it's not an option, I just feel bad - like I'm slighting him when I thought I was being honest. He wants to give back and coach youth football once his career is on track, and I think he has a TON of ability to do so. But IF he can play, should he?

 

If he wants to, yes IMO.

Them could be fighting word on BGPs. Lol.

 

I know...but I also know its true because I did it. Lol...

Rose Hulman Institue of Technology, small D3 school near Terra Haute, IN. In same conference as Hanover, Mt. Saint Joseph, etc. Decent football and entire school is engineering, math and science majors.

 

We sent a lineman there last year, he absolutely loves it and got to play some dline as a freshman

Not even close. I honestly told him it wasn't an option, to move on and concentrate on academics after peewee ball. Pleasantly surprised at how well he's done in high school. Now that a coach or two has expressed interest and I've been telling him all along that it's not an option, I just feel bad - like I'm slighting him when I thought I was being honest. He wants to give back and coach youth football once his career is on track, and I think he has a TON of ability to do so. But IF he can play, should he?

 

He shouldn't go out of his way to find a school where he can play as his primary goal. Pick the school based on his academic pursuits, then IF he is capable of playing football for that school and wants to try it, go for it, I see no harm there. He might find he loves it and is able to succeed in both the classroom and the field. He might decide it's not for him and move on. The only downside I can see is if it hurts his grades, then playing wouldn't be a good idea.

 

I tell kids who play ball for me, you are only young once, take advantage of what you can do when you can do it. Can't decide to go back and play college ball when your 40.

He shouldn't go out of his way to find a school where he can play as his primary goal. Pick the school based on his academic pursuits, then IF he is capable of playing football for that school and wants to try it, go for it, I see no harm there. He might find he loves it and is able to succeed in both the classroom and the field. He might decide it's not for him and move on. The only downside I can see is if it hurts his grades, then playing wouldn't be a good idea.

 

I tell kids who play ball for me, you are only young once, take advantage of what you can do when you can do it. Can't decide to go back and play college ball when your 40.

I bet at 40 if you wanted you could play for a D3 NAIA.

 

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- A 61-year-old Vietnam veteran and grandfather of five became the oldest player ever to get in a college football game. Alan Moore kicked an extra point for NAIA Faulkner in its season-opener on Saturday.

Tough call. The D2 and D3 schools are typically expensive private schools. Plus very few offer engineering. He probably can get a nice academic scholarship at a D1 state school that offers engineering--and use his Kees money as well.

 

When you can get more money for academics than you can for athletics----and you will have to pay a higher tuition just to play the sport at a D2/D3 school, it becomes difficult to justify it.

Rose Hulman Institue of Technology, small D3 school near Terra Haute, IN. In same conference as Hanover, Mt. Saint Joseph, etc. Decent football and entire school is engineering, math and science majors.

 

We sent a lineman there last year, he absolutely loves it and got to play some dline as a freshman

Excellent school. My husband went there. Big price tag now.

I bet at 40 if you wanted you could play for a D3 NAIA.

 

MONTGOMERY, Ala. -- A 61-year-old Vietnam veteran and grandfather of five became the oldest player ever to get in a college football game. Alan Moore kicked an extra point for NAIA Faulkner in its season-opener on Saturday.

 

Oh there are odd stories here and there of it happening, sure. But it aint happening for 99.999999999999% of those out there.

The academic schools are like UW-Madison, Ohio State, Marquette where their career goals of engineering would be very well served. They have put just as much work into school as they have their sport and I don't want to sidetrack them at this point (Class of 2016). Other than D1 schools in KY, which are clearly out of reach for football, I don't think any stack up academically compared to what they will be offered out of state. It's a waste of A LOT of KEES money which if the scholly is what we're expecting is a moot point anyway.

Also--keep in mind that Engineering is a very rigorous academic path. Dif EQs, physics, chem, lots of labs, and that is just the freshman and sophomore year. Playing a sport with those classes is a challenge to consider. I got an engineering degree from Marquette.

 

I wish your son all the best. You are asking all the right questions and I'm sure you will figure it out. :thumb:

I've got two boys playing DIII football. Both are overachievers in academics. We did the rounds with the Ivy League schools and visited 6 of the eight Ivies. The oldest was valedictorian of his class and scored a 33 ACT while the youngest was salutatorian and scored a 30 ACT. Both were recruited locally...both made All State lists. The 3+2 engineering programs is a fine fit for some kids, but, my sons both decided they wanted a four year time frame to get their bachelors degree in engineering. It takes 5 and half years to get a degree through the 3+2 programs unless a kid wants to forgo his senior year of football in college. KEES money is available for four years and can tighten things up after four years unless there are other scholarships in the wings. The oldest was offered for football by EKU and he actually passed on an official visit to Dartmouth after he decided he didn't care for the coaches there and the smooth talk. Being sixteen hours away didn't hurt his decision either. If your kid wants to go into engineering....wants to get a degree in four years at an excellent school and he is a bit undersized, I suggest trying DIII schools like Washington University in St. Louis (where my boys went), Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland or Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh or like one fellow said above, Rose Hulman Institue of Technology. These schools offer a super education, (tough, tough, tough challenge academically) and he might get a scholly academically that covers the needs that you have financially. Washington U. came up with the best package for my sons and were very approachable when it came to financial aid and needs. We requested more aid after the initial offer and after presenting our case both of our son's are getting an excellent financial aid package that together runs in the six figure range annually. Seems they like hard hitting Kentucky hillbillies in St. Louis. DIII coaches also don't blow the smoke (No offense Chief Smoke) and feed you the bologna diet that DI, DII and NAIA coaches are prone to do. They usually shoot straight and are more down to earth than the higher divisions. Washington University in St. Louis also happens to have a higher ranking academically (#14 nationally) than Brown (#15) and Cornell(#16) which are both Ivy League schools. It is a six hour drive for us to attend ball games, mostly on the flat parts of Indiana and Illinois which is easy driving. We can leave home 30 minutes south of Lexington at 6am and be there well before the 12 or 1pm Central time kickoff.

As for the question about whether a kid can do the engineering program and still play football...it can be and is done all the time. We had the same question and were worried when our oldest boy went off to play and attend. He has a 3.65 GPA as a junior and was first team all conference this past season on the offensive line for Washington U. while pursuing a mechanical engineering degree.

I just want to wish you the very best of luck to you and your son on his future. Enjoy this recruting process, cull the bologna and get your son to take the ACT several times for his best chance of getting into a good school. I miss my boys dearly, but, they are attending a school that has already garnered my oldest son several job and internship offers. Football actually opened the door to a few of them at Washington U. because you'd be suprised at how many CEO's, plant managers and company owners that played football and appreciate the well rounded kid who is smart AND athletic.

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Pigskin Junkie's son sounds exactly like my son and the choices he is making right now. Had talked with Rose Hulman and Centre over the fall/winter months. Visited Centre. Has decided not to continue with football. Just wants to be a student. Now it comes down to accepting an academic offer to one of these private schools or from a state school. Schools like Centre, Rose Hulman and Dayton are just under $50,000 a year for tuition and room/board. Takes one hell of an offer to equal the monies one can get from an in state public university.

Pigskin Junkie's son sounds exactly like my son and the choices he is making right now. Had talked with Rose Hulman and Centre over the fall/winter months. Visited Centre. Has decided not to continue with football. Just wants to be a student. Now it comes down to accepting an academic offer to one of these private schools or from a state school. Schools like Centre, Rose Hulman and Dayton are just under $50,000 a year for tuition and room/board. Takes one hell of an offer to equal the monies one can get from an in state public university.

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