Pigskin Junkie's son sounds exactly like my son and the choices he is making right now. Had talked with Rose Hulman and Centre over the fall/winter months. Visited Centre. Has decided not to continue with football. Just wants to be a student. Now it comes down to accepting an academic offer to one of these private schools or from a state school. Schools like Centre, Rose Hulman and Dayton are just under $50,000 a year for tuition and room/board. Takes one hell of an offer to equal the monies one can get from an in state public university.

 

200,000 for a degree. That's crazy. Just plain nuts.

Pigskin Junkie's son sounds exactly like my son and the choices he is making right now. Had talked with Rose Hulman and Centre over the fall/winter months. Visited Centre. Has decided not to continue with football. Just wants to be a student. Now it comes down to accepting an academic offer to one of these private schools or from a state school. Schools like Centre, Rose Hulman and Dayton are just under $50,000 a year for tuition and room/board. Takes one hell of an offer to equal the monies one can get from an in state public university.

 

That's why playing a sport can help. While D3 can't offer athletic scholarships, if the school is really interested in your son the coaches will work to put the best financial aid package available for your son.

 

Football coaches at Hanover helped me find every bit of need and merit based financial aid I could qualify for which resulted in full tuition for me and they matched my KEES money since I went out of state. In total it costs me about $4000 a year to attend when full cost of admission and board is about $42,000.

 

Moral of the story is no one is paying full admission to those types of schools. Athletics can be an avenue to get that aid and those types of schools know academics are why kids are there and have systems in place to help them succeed academically and athletically. If your son wants to get a great and affordable education and play football it is very possible.

The school my boys go to, Washington University, actually costs around $63,000 a year for tuition, double room, board and fees. My kids get between $50K and $60K in academic scholarship money apiece. I give them each $5K a year and that is what I told them we could afford to pay for each of them wherever they went to. They make up the rest in student loans. My oldest could have went to U of Kentucky (no football) and it would have cost him about $3-$5K a year which means with my part, he would have attended free. This was due to the fact he and his brother both were Governors Scholars and had the good ACT scores. BE VERY CAREFUL when it comes to the academic scholarships offered by the state universities. There are usually strings attached and the biggest string is the fact he would have had to carry at least a 3.7 or 3.8 GPA...somewhere in that neighborhood for the entire four years. If you get below that GPA ONE time, you lose all of the scholarship money offered by UK and you can't get it back even if you get your GPA back above the line. Just the stress of that would stink. They will both graduate with about $19K in student loans. One with a degree in mechanical engineering and one with a degree in chemical engineering.

Centre College, by the way, does cost around $40K to $45K a year for room, board and fees. They offered my oldest son around $28K to $30 a year in academic scholarship money for an initial offer. The coaches claimed that was about the best scholarship offered to any of the football players.

Great information in this thread! Good stuff! :thumb:

Great information in this thread! Good stuff! :thumb:

 

Has been enlightening and encouraging to say the least. Thanks, all!!!

Pigskin Junkie, I joined BG Preps to give you the following information but in the process others have beat me to it. My son was a National Merit Scholar, Captain of his football team and wanted to be an engineer. He was recruited by many div III schools in the northeast where we lived at the time and spent time at Yale with legendary coach Carmen Cozza. Net he was Kentucky born and had his mid-western heritage and after many visits decided on Washington University in St. Louis. Larry Kindbom was the coach then and is in his 26th season as Head coach. The cost back then was $28 K a year and he got about 25% of that amount in academic scholarship. There is no money for athletic scholarships in D III. One thing is that most of the top academic schools will adjust to the need base of any athlete and help them with their financial need. The other school in this area I am extremely impressed with is Rose Hulman. Not as flashy as Washington University but in a smaller setting and with many less distractions. And as of lately the better football program. Some asked why spend $200 K for a degree, well the Rose Hulman football player that graduates has a starting salary that averages around $90 K. As an engineer myself, a son who was successful graduating as a Mechanical Engineer from Washington University the journey is worth it. You know the rewards of competitive football, it takes a hard worker to make it through this journey, if your son really wants it help him through it. Email me offline if you want to discuss 1 on 1. Good luck to both of you. One other point, good NAIA schools, Lindsey Wilson for one and D III schools will not pull the academic scholarship if there is an injury or even if you decide to give up football for some reason.

Pigskin Junkie, I joined BG Preps to give you the following information but in the process others have beat me to it. My son was a National Merit Scholar, Captain of his football team and wanted to be an engineer. He was recruited by many div III schools in the northeast where we lived at the time and spent time at Yale with legendary coach Carmen Cozza. Net he was Kentucky born and had his mid-western heritage and after many visits decided on Washington University in St. Louis. Larry Kindbom was the coach then and is in his 26th season as Head coach. The cost back then was $28 K a year and he got about 25% of that amount in academic scholarship. There is no money for athletic scholarships in D III. One thing is that most of the top academic schools will adjust to the need base of any athlete and help them with their financial need. The other school in this area I am extremely impressed with is Rose Hulman. Not as flashy as Washington University but in a smaller setting and with many less distractions. And as of lately the better football program. Some asked why spend $200 K for a degree, well the Rose Hulman football player that graduates has a starting salary that averages around $90 K. As an engineer myself, a son who was successful graduating as a Mechanical Engineer from Washington University the journey is worth it. You know the rewards of competitive football, it takes a hard worker to make it through this journey, if your son really wants it help him through it. Email me offline if you want to discuss 1 on 1. Good luck to both of you. One other point, good NAIA schools, Lindsey Wilson for one and D III schools will not pull the academic scholarship if there is an injury or even if you decide to give up football for some reason.

 

Great first post, Oldest Coach! Welcome to BGP!

Nice thread,,, I think this is truly what a message board is supposed to be used for. No negative comments,, or personal attacks,,, just a free exchange of ideas. Nice job everyone!!

Pigskin Junkie, I joined BG Preps to give you the following information but in the process others have beat me to it. My son was a National Merit Scholar, Captain of his football team and wanted to be an engineer. He was recruited by many div III schools in the northeast where we lived at the time and spent time at Yale with legendary coach Carmen Cozza. Net he was Kentucky born and had his mid-western heritage and after many visits decided on Washington University in St. Louis. Larry Kindbom was the coach then and is in his 26th season as Head coach. The cost back then was $28 K a year and he got about 25% of that amount in academic scholarship. There is no money for athletic scholarships in D III. One thing is that most of the top academic schools will adjust to the need base of any athlete and help them with their financial need. The other school in this area I am extremely impressed with is Rose Hulman. Not as flashy as Washington University but in a smaller setting and with many less distractions. And as of lately the better football program. Some asked why spend $200 K for a degree, well the Rose Hulman football player that graduates has a starting salary that averages around $90 K. As an engineer myself, a son who was successful graduating as a Mechanical Engineer from Washington University the journey is worth it. You know the rewards of competitive football, it takes a hard worker to make it through this journey, if your son really wants it help him through it. Email me offline if you want to discuss 1 on 1. Good luck to both of you. One other point, good NAIA schools, Lindsey Wilson for one and D III schools will not pull the academic scholarship if there is an injury or even if you decide to give up football for some reason.

 

There aren't words to express how genuinely nice that is of you. I truly appreciate your input here!