I would be interested in knowing when these recipients are tested. If they are tested when they apply for welfare or each month, or when? It's pretty easy to pass a test if you know when you are going to be tested. If you are going to test then it should be random tests that can happen anytime.

 

No, what would be more interesting is what it actually tests for. I'm thinking that some places don't bother testing for weed anymore.

Well, it seems the wrong people are getting uptight about it. A drug screening costs what, about $100?And if you're only busting 40 people out of 16K, well, that's a really stupid waste of money just to test a theory.

Drug screens average around $30.

And if you're incapable of work, go die in the gutter, right?!?

 

Now don't be ridiculous Jim. No need to go to the gutter, a bed is fine.

 

Seriously though, the world, and life, ain't fair. Just the way it is.

Drug screens average around $30.

 

Certainly not all of them. Maybe a basic one for hardcore stuff like coke and meth, but I'm guessing one for weed costs more.

Now don't be ridiculous Jim. No need to go to the gutter, a bed is fine.

 

Seriously though, the world, and life, ain't fair. Just the way it is.

 

I find your take on this fascinating, given your history of medical issues. I'm sorry, but we're a civilized society, and a "work or die" philosophy is not compatible with a civilized society.

I find your take on this fascinating, given your history of medical issues. I'm sorry, but we're a civilized society, and a "work or die" philosophy is not compatible with a civilized society.

 

My history of medical issues is exactly why I have the stance I do. Everyone, save the severely mentally handicapped, are capable of work in some fashion.

My history of medical issues is exactly why I have the stance I do. Everyone, save the severely mentally handicapped, are capable of work in some fashion.

 

That's all fine and dandy. The problem is nobody wants to hire them, the same way nobody wants to hire an ex-con. You're speaking in utopian terms. Not very arch-conservative.

That's all fine and dandy. The problem is nobody wants to hire them, the same way nobody wants to hire an ex-con. You're speaking in utopian terms. Not very arch-conservative.

 

Not really to the bolded. There are plenty of jobs out there to be had that can't be filled because no one wants them.

 

I'm fiscally conservative, no one would confuse my stance on social issues with those of a conservative.

Well, it seems the wrong people are getting uptight about it. A drug screening costs what, about $100?And if you're only busting 40 people out of 16K, well, that's a really stupid waste of money just to test a theory.

 

A seven panel screen costs $27. It tests for THC also.

Drug screens average around $30.

 

A seven panel screen costs $27. It tests for THC also.

 

Are you guys talking about a off-the-shelf screening kit, or a clinic-administered kit? We have to utilize a clinic administered drug screening program for government drug-free workplace compliance, and those run us $180 a pop.

Are you guys talking about a off-the-shelf screening kit, or a clinic-administered kit? We have to utilize a clinic administered drug screening program for government drug-free workplace compliance, and those run us $180 a pop.

 

I'm talking a clinic test. Hair screen is $84 and an onsite plus lab is $47.

Certainly not all of them. Maybe a basic one for hardcore stuff like coke and meth, but I'm guessing one for weed costs more.

 

Walmart.com has one (FDA Approved) that test for AMP (amphetamines), BAR (barbiturates), BZD (benzodiazepines), COC (cocaine), OPI (opiates), MAD (methadone), MET (methamphetamine), PCP (phencyclidine), OXY (oxycodone), TCA (tricyclic antidepressants), THC (marijuana). All for $10.74 per test!

Are you guys talking about a off-the-shelf screening kit, or a clinic-administered kit? We have to utilize a clinic administered drug screening program for government drug-free workplace compliance, and those run us $180 a pop.

Clinic is making a killing off of those!

Always amazing to me that people want the government out of their personal lives, but have no issue at all with the government being in people's business who they feel are "taking their money". It's not our money. We pay to enjoy the freedoms and safety nets. There but for the Grace of God go I, I say.

 

If you can't see the difference then I can't help you. If you need other people's tax money to survive why shouldn't tax payers be able to put strings attached.

And this is where the Obama proposal for publicly funded community college education ties in. That is where you can learn the trade skills that have relevance in the marketplace.

 

Most 4 year College curriculums are taught with english challenged foreign graduate students who are paid next to nothing, while students are accumulating 5 and even 6 figure debt. You have to be very selective regarding what school you attend and what you choose as a major. 4 year college is not fr everybody , either.

 

Or how about the kids get a full time job and pay for college themselves ?