TCHSRaider Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 My friend was telling me that his nephew was in line for a schloraship to school to play football, and the coach said he qualified as the athlete, but was too big of a risk as far as the student part. He also stated that he knows other people that have had the same thing happened to them as well. Should the coach give him chance to prove himself or did he make the right call? (Not blasting any coaches out there, it was just an interesting topic that I heard recently.)
Jumper_Dad Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Are we talking academic risk or social risk? If it's academic then it could be out of the coaches hands, if you don't meet the schools minimum requirements for admissions in a lot of cases there isn't anything the coach can do.
Clyde Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 My friend was telling me that his nephew was in line for a schloraship to school to play football, and the coach said he qualified as the athlete, but was too big of a risk as far as the student part. He also stated that he knows other people that have had the same thing happened to them as well. Should the coach give him chance to prove himself or did he make the right call? (Not blasting any coaches out there, it was just an interesting topic that I heard recently.) With limited scholarships it's too risky to take a kid who has a high risk of academic failure. The talent would have to be overwhelming to take that risk.
Golden1 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 The student part is important to colleges. Got to stay eligible and if a kid flunks out then that is in a sense a wasted scholarship because they would be banking on having a sophomore in that spot the upcoming year not having to give it to a new incoming freshman. I'd say best thing to do is walk on, prove yourself and try to get the scholarship after you proved you could make grades.
Mustang75 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 The better the athlete more risk will be taken. If it's a boarder line player. Better have great grades.
TCHSRaider Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 Are we talking academic risk or social risk? If it's academic then it could be out of the coaches hands, if you don't meet the schools minimum requirements for admissions in a lot of cases there isn't anything the coach can do. Academic, grades would fluctuate in between seasons. He would be solid in season, and whacky outside of the season.
tdyballgame Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Academic, grades would fluctuate in between seasons. He would be solid in season, and whacky outside of the season. Sounds like a big risk to me. I'd say they got it right.
Jumper_Dad Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Kid could go to a local Community College and prove he can get his grades right for a year. Stay in shape and hit schools up after that.
TAC Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Grades are very important. More so than people think. Keep in mind It also could have given the coach an 'out' so he didn't have to tell a kid he was not good enough to play?
LoneRanger Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 ChiefSmoke & some others may be more able to relate specific stories and instances, however I can say with certainty that I've had coaches from every level of college football in my office at one time or another to discuss young men & their opportunity to participate beyond HS. It is without fail that one of the first 2 questions a coach asks in the initial meeting is, May I see an unofficial transcript & has he taken the ACT yet. Just about every kid that walks into HS sports has a dream of playing collegiate or higher. We start in the meeting prior to their freshman year about how important the transcript is & the grades they post as a freshman will be with them when they leave. Unfortunately far to many times I still see kids mislead by any number of adults & peers that lead them to believe if the talent is there that's all it takes. The common scenario is a kid that overestimates his athletic ability & underestimates the necessity for academic success. I've seen kids have opportunity come along that otherwise would not have because they were strong academically. I've seen others have opportunity pass them by because they were not strong academically. Bottom line, 4.0 is the magic number. The closer your GPA & 40 Time is to 4.0 the better your chances at college athletics.
ChiefSmoke Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 ChiefSmoke & some others may be more able to relate specific stories and instances, however I can say with certainty that I've had coaches from every level of college football in my office at one time or another to discuss young men & their opportunity to participate beyond HS. It is without fail that one of the first 2 questions a coach asks in the initial meeting is, May I see an unofficial transcript & has he taken the ACT yet. Just about every kid that walks into HS sports has a dream of playing collegiate or higher. We start in the meeting prior to their freshman year about how important the transcript is & the grades they post as a freshman will be with them when they leave. Unfortunately far to many times I still see kids mislead by any number of adults & peers that lead them to believe if the talent is there that's all it takes. The common scenario is a kid that overestimates his athletic ability & underestimates the necessity for academic success. I've seen kids have opportunity come along that otherwise would not have because they were strong academically. I've seen others have opportunity pass them by because they were not strong academically. Bottom line, 4.0 is the magic number. The closer your GPA & 40 Time is to 4.0 the better your chances at college athletics. This matches my experience as well. Kids really can make things tough on themselves when they back off in the classroom or don't prepare well for the ACT. The better the numbers, the more places they can play and the more scholarship/aid money they receive.
papagrit Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 The first question after "How are you doing today?" from about any coach we met during my son's recruting was "What's his GPA?" closely followed by "What's his test scores?". They would smile big when we told them 4.0 unweighted. I totally agree with the person who said a kid should go to a junior college, prove themselves and then look for a bigger stage.
GreyFox Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 My friend was telling me that his nephew was in line for a schloraship to school to play football, and the coach said he qualified as the athlete, but was too big of a risk as far as the student part. He also stated that he knows other people that have had the same thing happened to them as well. Should the coach give him chance to prove himself or did he make the right call? (Not blasting any coaches out there, it was just an interesting topic that I heard recently.) A coach should not have given him a chance. Academics should always come First. If the coach still took him he could be setting his team up for the kid being academically inelligible Which would result in a wasted roster spot or even worse NCAA violations of he gets Caught cheating or having someone else Do his work tori rain grades etc. That is worst case scenario of course but why even risk it? College should always be for education first and foremost. If he can't get in academically then he shouldn't be allowed in for football.
kyyank Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 I think I read on Cats Illustrated that if you sign a kid that does not make it due to academics you lose that scholly. Can't take chance.
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