February 8, 201511 yr The phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance doesn't discriminate against those with atheist beliefs, a New Jersey judge has ruled. State Superior Court Judge David Bauman made the decision Wednesday in dismissing a lawsuit brought by the American Humanist Association against the Matawan-Aberdeen Regional School District on behalf of a family in the district. Judge Upholds "Under God" in Pledge in School Challenge | NBC Connecticut
February 8, 201511 yr "Under God" was added to the pledge in '54 by Congress at Eisenhower's urging to stand up to Communism. So prior to '54 our nation was not "under God."
February 8, 201511 yr I assume at some point this will go to the SC for a ruling. NJ and MA judges have ruled it is not discriminatory. I guess until a judge rules that it is the SC will sit it out.
February 8, 201511 yr Who says the Pledge of Allegiance anymore? Only time I hear it is before NKY city council meetings on local cable TV. Do kids still say the pledge in school? When I was a kid, we said the Pledge of Allegiance when we returned to class from noon recess, then we turned around and faced the big cross on the wall and said the Pledge to the Cross.
February 8, 201511 yr Who says the Pledge of Allegiance anymore? Only time I hear it is before NKY city council meetings on local cable TV. Do kids still say the pledge in school? When I was a kid, we said the Pledge of Allegiance when we returned to class from noon recess, then we turned around and faced the big cross on the wall and said the Pledge to the Cross. I hear it on the radio most frequently.
February 8, 201511 yr Sounds to me that the pledge is being said less and less. Fox's O'Reilly ought to do a segment asking people on the street to recite it. While "under God" troubles some, no doubt the "indivisible" part is more disturbing to others.
February 8, 201511 yr My daughter said that her school says it every morning after morning announcements.
February 8, 201511 yr It may be one year, it may be ten years, it may be 100 years, but one day it won't be in the pledge any longer.
February 8, 201511 yr Does it really bother nonbelievers that it is in there? Don't say well what if we added this or that to it, that's not what I'm asking. It has been in there for most all of everyone on here's life, we all said it growing up. For nonbelievers did it make you cringe when you said it in third grade? No different than being on money, which has been in place longer than 1954.
February 8, 201511 yr Who says the Pledge of Allegiance anymore? Only time I hear it is before NKY city council meetings on local cable TV. Do kids still say the pledge in school? When I was a kid, we said the Pledge of Allegiance when we returned to class from noon recess, then we turned around and faced the big cross on the wall and said the Pledge to the Cross. Here in VA almost all the public schools I have been around say the Pledge every day and have a moment of silence. (Or moment of "shut up" according to one teacher friend who says that's all he ends up doing in that minute is telling kids to "shut up." )
February 8, 201511 yr Does it really bother nonbelievers that it is in there? Don't say well what if we added this or that to it, that's not what I'm asking. It has been in there for most all of everyone on here's life, we all said it growing up. For nonbelievers did it make you cringe when you said it in third grade? If anything it bothers me that it's become an issue to keep or exclude it as if we have somehow reached a magical place of decline. It was written by a minister and he didn't see he need to include it and it was added for 50 or more years. Kind of like "In God We Trust" was never an official motto until the same era as the pledge. The motivation was less than genuine IMO. Pledges and the like never bother me except that the ones, like myself who are Christians forget we worship a God who wants true worship rather than recitation.
February 8, 201511 yr Does it really bother nonbelievers that it is in there? Don't say well what if we added this or that to it, that's not what I'm asking. It has been in there for most all of everyone on here's life, we all said it growing up. For nonbelievers did it make you cringe when you said it in third grade? No different than being on money, which has been in place longer than 1954. You see a pattern, I do. Actually, when you are held down and have God shoved down your throat it does matter to a lot of people.
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