Stannis is still alive in the books if I'm not mistaken so his story is still going

 

So is Barristen Selmy. And for that matter so is Stannis' wife and daughter. The series has diverged from the books.

He will probably die early on in TWOW.

So is Barristen Selmy. And for that matter so is Stannis' wife and daughter. The series has diverged from the books.

 

I understand that but until they show his dead body I have no reason to believe he's dead.

 

They've not once been shy about showing the death of main characters (Ned, Rob, Caitlyn, Oberyn, Tywin, etc.) I doubt they've all of a sudden changed.

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I agree. Beheading or killing someone has never been a problem on this show.

I understand that but until they show his dead body I have no reason to believe he's dead.

 

They've not once been shy about showing the death of main characters (Ned, Rob, Caitlyn, Oberyn, Tywin, etc.) I doubt they've all of a sudden changed.

 

I tend to agree with you, just pointing out some things.

No issues here. I like discussing things. Especially Game of Thrones and all the possible scenarios.

Bovada has some odds up on who will be the first to die next season. Loras and Tommen are way undervalued on their list. My money is on Loras.

 

 

Stannis is still alive in the books if I'm not mistaken so his story is still going

 

Yea, that's my point. Stannis hasn't attacked the Boltons yet in the books, that's why he's still alive.

We can all agree Jon Snow is not dead, right?

We can all agree Jon Snow is not dead, right?

 

Define dead.

Define dead.

 

Not breathing, no longer a living character on the show.

Not breathing, no longer a living character on the show.

 

Define "living." He'll be back, they didn't show all of that blood spreading on the snow for no reason.

Not breathing, no longer a living character on the show.

 

Do zombies count?

We can all agree Jon Snow is not dead, right?

 

Melisandre's arrival at the wall has to be a giveaway.

 

I thought Jon's stabbing in the books left his fate a little ambiguous, so I was surprised the show made it clear he dies (I was also hoping the show would take the next step and let us in on what happens next).

Melisandre's arrival at the wall has to be a giveaway.

 

I thought Jon's stabbing in the books left his fate a little ambiguous, so I was surprised the show made it clear he dies (I was also hoping the show would take the next step and let us in on what happens next).

 

Supposedly some sharp eyed hyperfan who watched the final scene over and over at slow speed says that just before the screen goes black Jon's eyes changed color.