February 1, 201511 yr How many criminal actions are these men going to be allowed to commit and still be enrolled at UK? One misdemeanor anyway, what should they get?
February 1, 201511 yr How many criminal actions are these men going to be allowed to commit and still be enrolled at UK? How many criminal actions have they committed?
February 1, 201511 yr How many criminal actions have they committed? There was the illegal discharge of a firearm over the summer. Now they were underage in a bar, and drinking underage.
February 1, 201511 yr There was the illegal discharge of a firearm over the summer. Now they were underage in a bar, and drinking underage. I can tell you no player is getting removed for those especially when you consider the "firearm" from a legal standpoint is essentially a BB gun. Note: Before anyone reacts, no, I am not diminishing the fear many had due to the shutdown of campus. It does sound worse though when you say "discharge of a firearm." Details matter. Those are "show up at 5:00 in the morning, son, and do some more conditioning" offenses.
February 1, 201511 yr There was the illegal discharge of a firearm over the summer. Now they were underage in a bar, and drinking underage. Disorderly conduct was the charge. At this point that's all there is, unless of course you want to punish people before they're even CHARGED with anything?
February 1, 201511 yr Were they not underage in a bar? Were they not drinking? Is that not a crime? 18 and over bar, from what I understand and has been posted in this thread.
February 1, 201511 yr Were they not underage in a bar? Were they not drinking? Is that not a crime? Do you want to expell all college kids for that? Even before they are charged with it?
February 1, 201511 yr 18 and over bar, from what I understand and has been posted in this thread. Conflicting stories on that. My GUESS is it's 21 but they've always let underage kids in. Just a guess.
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February 1, 201511 yr Do you want to expell all college kids for that? Even before they are charged with it? Underage in a bar, Drinking while underage, physical altercation in the bar. Thats going to be at least 3 charges, if not more, plus a charge from the summer. At what point should a university no longer want the liability for these men?
February 1, 201511 yr Here is my take on the entire situation and what I feel should be done at the minimum. I will preface this with the fact that I am a huge Drew Barker fan and an even bigger fan of his father. With that said, no one can dispute that Drew has made some bad decisions that has given the program a black eye with some of the situations Drew and Dorian have found themselves in over the past 12 months. Not even referencing the fight itself as no one currently knows all the facts surrounding the incident but is more marred in speculation. With the prior incident that these players found themselves involved in which caused their suspensions during last season and now being at a bar while still being underage. Yes a lot of college students also do this, but a lot are not on full ride scholarships representing their universities and athletic programs. For this the players should at least be suspended a couple games to start the season for being multiple offenders. This has nothing to do with the altercation at all and more discipline should be open depending on what facts come out on the subject. For the very least these kids need to learn they represent more than just themselves, but the University as well and they are to set examples for not only their peers and teammates but also younger kids who look up to them and would like to follow in their footsteps. This isn't just a mark on the program but also reflects whether you believe it or not, on their previous schools. Does anyone really think Dixie Heights HS is proud of what Zeke Pike has accomplished since graduation? These boys whether they like it or not, are looked up to and we would much rather brag about their accomplishments in the end than to hide from their off the field incidents.
February 1, 201511 yr Underage in a bar, Drinking while underage, physical altercation in the bar. Thats going to be at least 3 charges, if not more, plus a charge from the summer. At what point should a university no longer want the liability for these men? Again, do you not want them to be charged and convicted before anything is done by UK? Do you want the same standards applied to all students? At this point you have no idea what happened, why the rush to expell them?
February 1, 201511 yr Again, do you not want them to be charged and convicted before anything is done by UK? Do you want the same standards applied to all students? At this point you have no idea what happened, why the rush to expell them? After the first incident, no I dont believe they need to be charged in order to be dismissed from the university. In fact, I thought they should have been dismissed over the last incident.
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