OK Ricky,

I didnt realize this thread was only for you, Frances, GIAT, & select others to view and respond to:confused: I guess I missed the memo:p

 

Not realizing that, here is the post of yours that I responded to:

I say we keep this one alive boys, no matter how hard some try to stir the pot. Like spindoc said its the off season, its Spring the flowers are blooming and we have more daylight. I saw David Blaine stand inside a block of ice for 24 hours surely I can get along with you bozos for a week

 

I guess myself and all other Ashland supporters are not supposed to be offended by you calling us "bozos" even though all your previous posts make it very plain that you are a rose hill fan who focuses on attacking Ashland at most every opportunity.

 

When you refer to "some" who stir the pot, this thread was doing fine until post #8 when you posted:

"I think there is a better chance of that than there is of Ashland agreeing to play"

Now I don't believe it's unreasonable for anyone to think that Ashland fans in general might not appreciate an obnoxious remark like that and consider you as the one attempting to "stir the pot."

 

Then following that we get another RH post #9 stating: "...it certainly does not remotely suggest that there is any mutual trust, however it is best for all at this stage of the game."

Perhaps this person has taken upon himself to lead the Rose Hill faithful out of the dark ages and show them the way due to their ignorance? Myself, I have no problem trusting many of the good people at RH and find it offensive for an idea like his to forwarded.

That person also then pronounces (for all to heed I presume) that "the thread should be safe, pending future posts of course"

I guess that is suppose to absolve his & your preceeding post of anything offensive or possibly inciting for Ashland fans and puts the onus on anything that follows as being responsible for starting the problem - thats pretty slick.

 

So, perhaps we could save confusion in the future if you flag your posts as directed to individuals if they are going to be provocative?

 

Woody

 

Woody, the whole thread was meant to be light hearted. It seems as though everyone picked up on that without a memo.

 

My first post was tongue in check. Hence the small subtitle underneath my comment. I think everyone but yourself picked up on that.

 

My bozo comment was not to be offensive. I was just kidding around. You know Francis said something along the line of GIAT and myself being ugly. When I read that I laughed.

 

If I offended you in anyway please accept my sincerest appology. I have swore off being critical of anyone except Mark Story and Tubby Smith. Personally I don't think it is worth it anymore. This is a perfect example. The least little thing is blown out of proportion.

My proposed disassociation would include the elementary school teams and the middle school teams as well as the high school teams. Much of the animousity arises from events involving the teams at those levels.

So if there was a Kindergarten league, Rose Hill and Ashland still have a shot at playing each other there?:eek:

 

My guess is the two Schools may get along after Dakota Euton graduates, he is going to set many records in his high school career and the one that will never be broken will be how many times a kid will be disallowed from competing with his school team against Ashland before the game even starts!

Come to think of it, I dont think anyone but Dakota has ever been disallowed before their team competes, and I'm not sure Dakota could explain why if you asked :confused:

I was remiss in excluding the K-4 and K-5 teams from my list. Please accept amendment to include those two grades. As for the "Dakotah Exclusion Rule", it has been applied on more than one occasion. Nice of you to mention it, shooterx3.

"Dakotah Exclusion Rule

 

yep, known as the "DER"

and used in sentences like "DER aint no way":D

I was told that a Rose Hill player from this past season was moving to NC. Anyone know about this? I know there are family connections there, so I felt the rumor might actually have some factual basis.

 

At the risk of drawing the ire of Scooter. I thought the christian thing to do was to try to bring people together. Driving a wedge between the two programs frankly in my opinion is not the correct way to forge some common ground. I doubt there is truthfully that many people that feel that a complete disconnect of two schools that are about a mile apart is the perfect solution.

 

If RickyP and I can forge a civil relationship surely everyone from these two schools can. By the way I never got my meal from RickyP at the Hitchin Post in Frenchburg.:thumb:

I was told that a Rose Hill player from this past season was moving to NC. Anyone know about this? I know there are family connections there, so I felt the rumor might actually have some factual basis.

 

At the risk of drawing the ire of Scooter. I thought the christian thing to do was to try to bring people together. Driving a wedge between the two programs frankly in my opinion is not the correct way to forge some common ground. I doubt there is truthfully that many people that feel that a complete disconnect of two schools that are about a mile apart is the perfect solution.

 

If RickyP and I can forge a civil relationship surely everyone from these two schools can. By the way I never got my meal from RickyP at the Hitchin Post in Frenchburg.:thumb:

I'be heard that rumor too. Supposedly Dakotah was going to NC to live with his brother, former Tomcat Darell Arbaugh(sp). I dont believe there is any truth to this rumor though.

From my point of view the wedge has been here and WILL be here for a while... There is no doubt about that....

 

shooterx3,

 

You know that I will always respect your opinion and I hope that Dakotah is the District and Regional MVP in years to come, but what is going on currently is, for lack of better words, SILLY. I'm not in a position to make an amends, but several of the Rose Hill posters on here are.

 

I know about the scheduling and how some people will make it seem. Ashland is not trying to avoid Rose Hill. Not true.

 

The TRUTH is that there are conviluted agendas on both sides at "THIS" point. I mean lets faces it the Freshman AIT was a huge mistake on the part of RH, but most RH fans will claim an Ashland set-up....That discusison could go on for days and pages that I don't want to read.

 

I believe that YOU are a man of logic and will undestand that "WE" could work this out....Will YOU??? The doors are about to close and I don't want that!!!!!!

Woody, the whole thread was meant to be light hearted. It seems as though everyone picked up on that without a memo.

 

My first post was tongue in check. Hence the small subtitle underneath my comment. I think everyone but yourself picked up on that.

 

My bozo comment was not to be offensive. I was just kidding around. You know Francis said something along the line of GIAT and myself being ugly. When I read that I laughed.

 

If I offended you in anyway please accept my sincerest appology. I have swore off being critical of anyone except Mark Story and Tubby Smith. Personally I don't think it is worth it anymore. This is a perfect example. The least little thing is blown out of proportion.

 

Sounds good Ricky,

 

I know the thread has some good natured stuff, I enjoy that too. I'm well aware of GIAT & Frances' presence on here and how they interact. To me, it seemed Frances was trying to divert any antagonism some might feel into light heartedness (I apologize & dont mean to say precisely what Frances intention was - it just seemed that way to me). From watching these debates rage on since Ive been on here I know GIAT likes to have fun, but I also have seen how some people have seemingly triggered him into making comments that go over the edge sometimes. I see a big difference between those on here who obviously have fun a lot of the time vs. a few who have what plainly appears to be an agenda filled with dislike & distrust towards Ashland. What is troubling with that, beyond the root cause of it for that/those individual(s), is that Ashland gets painted with such a broad brush that any of us who are supporters of Ashland get labeled say, .. "mistrustful."

I don't think that is appropriate - so I respond.

 

I accept your apology and I offer in kind if you have been offended.

I would wish you to please browse back through the thread and maybe see how it could be viewed differently by Ashland fans.

Re; as I mentioned before, it was clearly going OK [for an Ash-RH;) ] until your attempts at humor which "I feel" then sends it "towards" the problem area.

 

I didn't just go off on this upon first seeing it. For quite some time, I've been watching how these threads deteriorate and get annoyed how mean spirited they invariably become.:cry:

Usually, whenever I attempt humor I will add plenty of smilies and/or self deprecating remarks in an effort to make sure folks don't get the wrong idea.

 

Anyway - best wishes,

Woody Jr

Everybody around here is so dang touchy, I just wanted to be sure I didn't offend someone I actually do respect... :thumb:

 

 

 

 

 

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Woody, I am flattered that you choose to quote me. However, I would prefer that you quote my whole statement and not pick and choose using partial sentences. I do thank you for, in quoting me, preserving my grammar. I said, in essence, that I don't see any reason for any association between Rose Hill and Ashland and that I believe it is best for both to merely disassociate for the next few years. Really, as formerly stated, neither needs the other.

 

I will also state that, from my observation and experience, there is no redeemable level of trust, one for the other, between those associated with the athletic programs of the two schools. My statement of this doesn't change the situation. It is merely a fact that most knowledgeable individuals accept.

 

I don't think my above post contained any negativity toward your school. The post merely defines the "climate" as it has been for several years and as it is at this time.

 

Some can continue to place their posts attempting at humor. That is fine. However, it won't likely change the climate one scintilla. And that, Woody, Jr., is why I suggest that the two schools completely disassociate. After all, that is pretty much the case at this time anyway.

 

Now, if anyone can rebut what I have stated, do so. In the meantime, I'll play along and continue to try to keep the thread going.

 

 

Well,

I did not use a partial quote (which I believe, was plainly shown to be a partial) to serve any purpose other than make for a more concise read and I dont see where you showed anything that was misconstrued by my use of it. If you can show how my sentence construction changed your meaning - I apologize now.

 

What "I" feel is insulting & offensive is your statement: "... it certainly does not remotely suggest that there is any "mutual trust", however, it is best for all at this stage of the game." Not only do "I" and most likely, a lot of other Tomcats, feel that you have NO right and certainly NO standing, to decree what is best for " ALL at this stage of the game" but I would HOPE that there are a lot of good people at Rose Hill who ALSO feel you [scooterbob] have no right to decree what is best for them either :eek: That is what I personally felt was offensive.

 

If as you stated there truely is absolutely "...no redeemable level of trust .... between those associated with the athletic programs of the two schools" then I ask if perhaps the problem lies with the people who are feeding this mistrust?:argue: Maybe the folks with this type attitude need to be ignored or removed from the discussion so that cooler, more well reasoned heads can prevail?

Also, perhaps you can provide some professional mediation techniques, real world examples, or advice from those trained in resolving conflict who could confirm that the strategy you declared: "in essence, that I[scooterbob] don't see any reason for any association between Rose Hill and Ashland and that I[scooterbob] believe it is best for both to merely disassociate for the next few years".

I'm not sure about Rose Hill but I'm familiar with many, many public school systems, and they have whats called mediation training. Usually this is offered in say, the elementary grades so that the little ones learn this important skill in their early years. Maybe this could help?

 

In the past, a long, long, time ago, in a not too distant galaxy, there were these 2 school systems, one was called Ashland - the other Boyd Co., and their sports contests were filled with lots of verbal sparring, certain coaches and administrators often had words, and this trickled down to the impressionable youth, making any contact rather troublesome. Eventually the species evolved, youth leagues started competing against each other in various sports; JFL, Little league, Grade school basketball, those youngsters actually began to develop friendships ( YES FRIENDSHIPS ) and pretty soon they were in HS competing, they battled, sometimes very heatedly, but when it was over they shook hands and went on with life, which is what happens AFTER most people grow up & LEAVE high school

Perhaps just too many people haven't grown up on this issue???

 

Woody

This started out so good and as usual has come down to mud slinging...well fun while it lasted....:irked: