Well I can say the same for you, prove its not better.

 

Simple, tell me the textbook publisher being used in your point of view for home schooling. Do you really want to get on this track?

 

Oh, by the way, you want test scores, your from Nor. KY - go and check out the NKYChamber of Commerce website for scores of schools. NOW, tell me where home school specific scores exist.:sssh:

I'm sure a parent that home school's their child would give more attention than regular school teacher. So I would think their test scores would be higher from home schooling vs "regular schooling".

 

However to get a well rounded education, the child would need other extracurricular activities. Where the child partakes in the activities could be at the local school which the parent(s) pays taxes to support.

 

I am sure the attention is strong. However, it is very questionable and frankly, not proved to be better.

I agree 100%. And for the record I think that parents that homeschool their kids are doing them a big disservice. There is a lot more to be learned at school than what is in the text books. Kids will have to face the real world sooner or later, and from what I have seen kids who have been sheltered their whole lives just aren't ready to what lies ahead. Sure attending a public or private school for that matter may expose a kid to some situations that a parent would like to avoid, but I think that learning how to deal with or avoid certain situations is beneficial at an earlier age.

 

Not only that, but many textbook publications geared to home school programs really need to be called out.

Simple, tell me the textbook publisher being used in your point of view for home schooling. Do you really want to get on this track?

 

Oh, by the way, you want test scores, your from Nor. KY - go and check out the NKYChamber of Commerce website for scores of schools. NOW, tell me where home school specific scores exist.:sssh:

Statistics demonstrate that homeschoolers tend to score above the national average on both their SAT and ACT scores. For example, the 2,219 students reporting their homeschool status on the SAT in 1999 scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. In 2004 the 7,858 homeschool students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.6, compared to the national average of 20.9.

For those who feel home school should be allowed, what about the coach of the program? How do you maintain academic standards? Discipline? Why is this now a conversation vs. 10 years ago? Want to be part of the team, then join that team's world. That is not to much to ask of anyone.

Statistics demonstrate that homeschoolers tend to score above the national average on both their SAT and ACT scores. For example, the 2,219 students reporting their homeschool status on the SAT in 1999 scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. In 2004 the 7,858 homeschool students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.6, compared to the national average of 20.9.

 

And if the mean average for those public school students, measured to social-economic standards, would actually find the public school students outperforming that group. Christian Science Monitor. Further, many public school students are participants in the test due to school directive, and actually have no meaning to their outcome - not going to post secondary education. That group removed, further reveals a strong public school performance.

Statistics demonstrate that homeschoolers tend to score above the national average on both their SAT and ACT scores. For example, the 2,219 students reporting their homeschool status on the SAT in 1999 scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. In 2004 the 7,858 homeschool students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.6, compared to the national average of 20.9.

I don't think you can attribute the higher scores merely to the fact that the kids are home-schooled.

 

Demographics and parental support, etc., have so much to do with academic achievement. The simple fact that the kids' families choose to home-school them is an indication that education is more emphasized in those homes, and therefore those kids' test scores might be likely to be above-average anyway.

And if the mean average for those public school students, measured to social-economic standards, would actually find the public school students outperforming that group. Christian Science Monitor.

Socio-economic standards??? Isn't that liberalspeak for excusing the poor performance of kids in lower class neighborhood schools? I live in Covington. Don't even try that socio-garbage with me. My employer doesn't care about my socio-economic condition. He only cares that I can do the job I was hired to do.

 

Some 11,482 children were educated in Kentucky homes last year and they appear to be doing well. While the national average on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills is at the 50th percentile, home school students typically score at or above the 75th percentile. SAT scores for home schoolers were 72 points higher than the national average this year. Their average ACT scores were 22.8 compared to a national average of 21.0. With scores like these, it shouldn't surprise us that Harvard admissions officers attend home school conventions to recruit potential candidates.

 

Home schoolers have also distinguished themselves in national competitions, fielding top places in the national spelling and geography bees in recent years. They also exhibit exceptional behavioral and social skills, according to a University of Florida study. Compared to their public school counterparts, home-educated children were more patient, less competitive and less aggressive. They were also more likely to introduce themselves to others and exchange phone numbers--indications of advanced social skills.

 

And I still haven't heard a good reason to keep these kids out of the schools. Maybe we're afraid of the influence they may have on our public school kids.

Socio-economic standards??? Isn't that liberalspeak for excusing the poor performance of kids in lower class neighborhood schools? I live in Covington. Don't even try that socio-garbage with me. My employer doesn't care about my socio-economic condition. He only cares that I can do the job I was hired to do.

 

Some 11,482 children were educated in Kentucky homes last year and they appear to be doing well. While the national average on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills is at the 50th percentile, home school students typically score at or above the 75th percentile. SAT scores for home schoolers were 72 points higher than the national average this year. Their average ACT scores were 22.8 compared to a national average of 21.0. With scores like these, it shouldn't surprise us that Harvard admissions officers attend home school conventions to recruit potential candidates.

 

Home schoolers have also distinguished themselves in national competitions, fielding top places in the national spelling and geography bees in recent years. They also exhibit exceptional behavioral and social skills, according to a University of Florida study. Compared to their public school counterparts, home-educated children were more patient, less competitive and less aggressive. They were also more likely to introduce themselves to others and exchange phone numbers--indications of advanced social skills.

 

And I still haven't heard a good reason to keep these kids out of the schools. Maybe we're afraid of the influence they may have on our public school kids.

 

So your life in Covington allows you to prejudge anyone's prior set of circumstances? I doubt it. Try again, as you say. And to your silly suggestions that home schools perform at these various academic events, I am sure you simply left out that many, and there are many, who consistently outperform home school students that come from public schools. Or are the students from Holmes IB program simply not up to the grade?

 

Some 11,482 children were educated in Kentucky homes last year and they appear to be doing well. While the national average on the Iowa Test of Basic Skills is at the 50th percentile, home school students typically score at or above the 75th percentile. SAT scores for home schoolers were 72 points higher than the national average this year. Their average ACT scores were 22.8 compared to a national average of 21.0. With scores like these, it shouldn't surprise us that Harvard admissions officers attend home school conventions to recruit potential candidates.

 

Home schoolers have also distinguished themselves in national competitions, fielding top places in the national spelling and geography bees in recent years. They also exhibit exceptional behavioral and social skills, according to a University of Florida study. Compared to their public school counterparts, home-educated children were more patient, less competitive and less aggressive. They were also more likely to introduce themselves to others and exchange phone numbers--indications of advanced social skills.

 

And I still haven't heard a good reason to keep these kids out of the schools. Maybe we're afraid of the influence they may have on our public school kids.

 

Your stats are misleading. Think about the composition of each group. Home-schooled kids as a group come from a family that places high value on education. That in itself will lead these kids to do better than the "average" public school child - even if they were IN the public schools. The composition of the public school group , unfortunately, includes too many kids that have factors that will cause them to do worse than home-schooled children.

 

It would be similar to using two groups of children to compare the effects of PE class. One group comes from parents who place a high value on fitness while the other group is simply a mishmash of society. One group is already predisposed to do better in that measurement.

I am sure the attention is strong. However, it is very questionable and frankly, not proved to be better.

 

Are you saying a 1:1 ratio is not better than a 30:1 ratio? Please...

Your stats are misleading.

 

 

You people asked for stats to back it up, and now you don't like the stats. LOL!!! :confused:

You people asked for stats to back it up, and now you don't like the stats. LOL!!! :confused:

 

Then you will be very comfortable with the stats that show public education vs. private to be better in math and science, per the Christian Science Monitor.:thumb:

Are you saying a 1:1 ratio is not better than a 30:1 ratio? Please...

 

The end result is very questionable. I am sure the parents really "care", but a real question of teaching/learning has been well documented. HHDad talks about the numbers who take the standards test. Well, what about the rest who do not? That is a huge gap and no one really questions it.

The end result is very questionable. I am sure the parents really "care", but a real question of teaching/learning has been well documented. HHDad talks about the numbers who take the standards test. Well, what about the rest who do not? That is a huge gap and no one really questions it.

In other words, you'll accept only those stats that support your position.

 

Back on topic, what is the harm in allowing home school kids to join competitive teams at public schools?