October 31, 201411 yr No one will ever convince me that THE driving force for any state that is implementing a Voter ID card initiative is anything other than an attempt to keep minorities and poor away from the voting booth. It's obvious that's the reason. So...the question everyone asks is "how hard can it be?" Here are some examples. 99% of you that say "how hard can it be" are also the 99% who say "you can't count on the government to get it right." You'll see that come to fruition in these examples. This is what it?s like to try to get a Voter ID when you?re disabled, poor or don?t drive - The Washington Post Guy had driver's license he acquired properly that was good through 2015. His DUI cost him his license. He still had a copy of it but it was no longer valid ie he couldn't drive. He was told he couldn't vote. Are we really going to stop a guy from voting over a DUI? There's a lot of people who simply cannot get around very well. There's a lot of people who can't afford the costs of acquiring a new ID. We shouldn't penalize them in the name of vote integrity. We need to realize that everyone doesn't live like we do. Of course , we also need to admit why we want these voter ID laws put in place but....
October 31, 201411 yr Legal voters should not be penalized for following the law by having their votes nullified by fraudulent votes. Which states restrict acceptable photo IDs for voting to driver licenses? Are you aware that La Raza is circulating guides to inform Hispanic voters which states do not require photo IDs? What do you think the motive for La Raza' informational campaign might be? #TurnOutForWhat
October 31, 201411 yr Here's why the Republicans' voter suppression efforts have accelerated within the past two years: Blacks make up 12 percent of the U.S. population. The black vote in the 2012 presidential election constituted 13 percent of the ballots cast.
October 31, 201411 yr A few years back the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper followed a woman who set out early in the morning to obtain a state ID in order to vote. (The woman didn't have a driver's license.) Entire process took her 13 hours -- from the time she walked out her front door to catch the bus until the time she returned to her house.
October 31, 201411 yr George Orwell would be proud of the Obamunnists' use of the phrase "voter suppression" to the requirement that one documents their eligibility to vote, as well as the phrase "undocumented immigrants" to describe individuals who have illegally crossed the U.S. border, work illegally in this country, illegally obtain free government benefits, and who often use forged documents and fake Social Secuity Numbers to obtain those benefits.
October 31, 201411 yr Here's why the Republicans' voter suppression efforts have accelerated within the past two years: Blacks make up 12 percent of the U.S. population. The black vote in the 2012 presidential election constituted 13 percent of the ballots cast. So black people do not have ids?
October 31, 201411 yr A few years back the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper followed a woman who set out early in the morning to obtain a state ID in order to vote. (The woman didn't have a driver's license.) Entire process took her 13 hours -- from the time she walked out her front door to catch the bus until the time she returned to her house.I don't believe this story. If I wanted to take 13 hours to obtain a photo ID, then I could do it. I would just get on the bus and start asking random strangers for help getting an ID and then head down a few blind alleys. If a person in Philly pulled out their Obamaphone and made a few calls to find out where he or she needed to go to obtain an ID before heading to the bus stop, then there is no way that the trip would take 13 hours. 13 hours would be almost enough time to ride the bus to Harrisburg and back to Philly.
October 31, 201411 yr Few things that crack me up when this topic comes up. 1) People point out cases that only a small fraction of people are subject to. I get it that acquiring an id for some people may be cumbersome, but people paint the picture that there are millions of people in these same situations, which I do not buy. 2) How Republicans are the side of political motivation in this case. At worst, it is equal. The Dems are trying to preserve those votes that are supposedly being "suppressed."
October 31, 201411 yr So black people do not have ids? If a person lives in a large city and relies on public transportation, yes, he or she often lacks a picture ID. Same also is true, by the way, for people in retirement communities who have given up driving.
October 31, 201411 yr If a person lives in a large city and relies on public transportation, yes, he or she often lacks a picture ID. Same also is true, by the way, for people in retirement communities who have given up driving.There is a difference in "often lacking" and "lacking accessibility."
October 31, 201411 yr So black people do not have ids?That is why they cannot legally buy alcohol or cigarettes, cannot get into any federal buildings, open bank accounts, or get jobs that require proof of identity and citizenship.
October 31, 201411 yr There is a difference in "often lacking" and "lacking accessibility." People have asked "How hard can it be to get a photo ID?" Here's how Wisconsin is addressing the no-ID problem: Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin, is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays. In other states — Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas — many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of minorities and poor people. Closer to home, Hamilton County Republicans were successful in moving a key election office from downtown Cincinnati out to Oakley or somewhere. Only a fool would say this is not voter suppression.
October 31, 201411 yr Few things that crack me up when this topic comes up. 1) People point out cases that only a small fraction of people are subject to. I get it that acquiring an id for some people may be cumbersome, but people paint the picture that there are millions of people in these same situations, which I do not buy. 2) How Republicans are the side of political motivation in this case. At worst, it is equal. The Dems are trying to preserve those votes that are supposedly being "suppressed." Of course they are. "Preserve" is an apt word.:thumb:
October 31, 201411 yr The reasons that the Republicans have goosed up voter suppression are (a) a greater percentage of blacks than whites voted in the 2012 election (see post 3) and (b) America is growing more diverse every month. These don't-get-out-the-vote GOP tactics might actually win an election or two, but are doomed to fail over the long haul.
October 31, 201411 yr A few years back the Philadelphia Inquirer newspaper followed a woman who set out early in the morning to obtain a state ID in order to vote. (The woman didn't have a driver's license.) Entire process took her 13 hours -- from the time she walked out her front door to catch the bus until the time she returned to her house. My oldest son got his drivers license id in 25 minutes, including taking the test. My younger son doesn't want to drive. He got his government photo id in less than 10 minutes. He will use it to cast his first vote Tuesday.
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