formerkywrestler Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Let's change the way we choose the vice president I think the author brings up some very valid points.
plantmanky Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Yes, Id prefer it be an elected position not tied to presidential candidate.
PurplePride92 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 The Vice President should always be elected IMO. A Rep./Dem combo at the top would be awesome.
Getslow Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Interesting concept. But as the author says, even the guy who is arguably the best legal mind in Washington doesn't really have a good replacement in mind. There is something inherently un-democratic about having the person a heartbeat away from the presidency be an official that no one really elected. Maybe the easier thing to do would simply be to switch around the order of presidential succession so that elected officials come first. Even if the Speaker of the House was only elected by a single Congressional district, at least he was also voted into that position by the majority of the congressmen from his or her party. Might make the way parties choose Speakers of the House work a little differently as well. Then perhaps President Pro-Tempore of the Senate comes next and only then the VP. Or maybe that still just leaves us with the Gerald Ford problem, in which we have a President that only a tiny fraction of Americans actually got to vote for. It's tough.
Voice of Reason Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 We do elect the VP ... he/she is part of the package when you vote for president. For those who think the VP is not considered when voting, I absolutely disagree - e.g. Sarah Palin. No way I want another separate election for just VP. We waste way too much time and money on elections already. That would just be another waste.
LIPTON BASH Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 We do elect the VP ... he/she is part of the package when you vote for president. For those who think the VP is not considered when voting, I absolutely disagree - e.g. Sarah Palin. No way I want another separate election for just VP. We waste way too much time and money on elections already. That would just be another waste. I always hate this statement "we waste to much time and money" on elections . I would easily argue that the elections in the country that leads the free world are literally the most important events in the world when they happen. For that very reason I think it only makes sense so much time and money is spent.
LIPTON BASH Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Let's change the way we choose the vice president I think the author brings up some very valid points. Valid points. It would be interesting . I think we would have a lot of split elections. Also parties would have to nominate an electable candidate and not just one who compliments the president.
Bluegrasscard Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Is everyone forgetting the past or choosing to ignore it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution The 1800 election exposed a defect in the original formula in that if each member of the Electoral College followed party tickets, there would be a tie between the two candidates from the most popular ticket. The emergence of partisan political activity caused the failure of the original constitutional plan. Edited October 16, 2014 by Bluegrasscard Added link on reason for question.
CincySportsFan Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I have no problem changing it. I could see valid points for either a.) the runner-up in the primary, becomes the party's VP candidate, or b.) have each candidate announce their ticket prior to the primary, so that you actually know what tandem you'd be putting on the ballot in the fall. There's also two other changes that I'd go ahead and make as well. One is the electoral college. It'd be gone. We hear all the time about one person, one vote...and yet for the top office in the country, we elect to bypass this philosophy. There should be no more key "swing" states. A voter is a voter, regardless of where they reside. After all, we're all Americans, aren't we? The other change that I'd make, is to make the primaries all at the same time in the spring, the way the general election is in the fall. Again, there is no reason why voters in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina or anywhere else, should be able to have more impact on who I can vote for, here in Kentucky. It's for a national office, so the states should play by national rules, not their own.
Voice of Reason Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I always hate this statement "we waste to much time and money" on elections . I would easily argue that the elections in the country that leads the free world are literally the most important events in the world when they happen. For that very reason I think it only makes sense so much time and money is spent. It is more about the money than the time. The last election finance reform was one of the worst things Congress has done.
Getslow Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Is everyone forgetting the past or choosing to ignore it... Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I don't think anyone's advocating returning to the pre-12th-Amendment Electoral College plan, simply reforming the way a VP is chosen. The VP and the President coming from different parties would be a disaster.
BigVMan23 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I have no problem changing it. I could see valid points for either a.) the runner-up in the primary, becomes the party's VP candidate, or b.) have each candidate announce their ticket prior to the primary, so that you actually know what tandem you'd be putting on the ballot in the fall. There's also two other changes that I'd go ahead and make as well. One is the electoral college. It'd be gone. We hear all the time about one person, one vote...and yet for the top office in the country, we elect to bypass this philosophy. There should be no more key "swing" states. A voter is a voter, regardless of where they reside. After all, we're all Americans, aren't we? The other change that I'd make, is to make the primaries all at the same time in the spring, the way the general election is in the fall. Again, there is no reason why voters in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina or anywhere else, should be able to have more impact on who I can vote for, here in Kentucky. It's for a national office, so the states should play by national rules, not their own. As to the bolded...I LOVE this idea and think it's definitely how it should be done.
BIG BLACK JACK Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 The Vice President should always be elected IMO. A Rep./Dem combo at the top would be awesome. Been saying this for the past several years.
BigVMan23 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Paul/Clinton in 2016!:dancingpa Or...should it be...:scared:
Getslow Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 ^ Perfect. Aaron Paul just turned 35 this year and George Clinton would really be a boost to the ticket. Tear the roof off the sucker!
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