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BGP 4A Rankings for 9-22

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The bolded is all I agree with.

 

5A has always been one or two teams dominating and that's it. Even when Highlands was 5A it was still ran by one team. BG isn't as dominant as last season but 5A is still a one and half team classification. Anything other than a BG/Pulaski County state final will likely be a shock to the masses.

 

 

4A has some unknowns. Highlands may not be as dominant as they have been but truthfully they aren't even the defending champs so why should Highlands get a pass? Until this Friday we don't know for sure who the best team is to date in 4A.

 

Have you seen Boyle play this season or are you just scoreboard watching? I'll be the first to admit that Boyle's offense doesn't have the explosive playmakers of years past but they are still Boyle County. I'd argue that this year's team is better than last year's team that only lost one game.

 

Last I saw Owensboro gave Bowling Green all they wanted.

 

I hear North Oldham has a stud RB and they just beat a ranked 5A team. How good is North Oldham?

 

Franklin-Simpson is quietly having an impressive season.

 

Is Johnson Central legit this year? Won't know until the playoffs.

 

Maybe it's just me but 4A may be down by past year's standards but for me in a year when we aren't just giving Highlands the trophy or an automatic spot in the finals and planning for next season I'm thinking 4A is about the same as it always has been. At least it is more wide open than year's past.

 

To put it lightly, that's a bunch of bull shooting. :popcorn:

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I am going to say that either Lexington Catholic is not a Top 10 team or 4A is painfully weak.

 

MadisonC entral is a bad team and they nearly beat LexCath.

 

Right now it looks like you have a Top 5 and then the gap to everyone else is MASSIVE

 

Actually, your State Championship preview will be this Friday in Ft Thomas round 1. Round 2 is the one that only matters and whoever wins that game will be 4A State Champ...jmo

 

Really only a two horse race in the dog and pony show this yr...Nobody in 4A plays the schedule that Highlands and CovCath play this yr and it will show more than in yrs past and will prove itself:thumb:

 

Besides, Highlands earns it free pass with its schedule...Just sayin

To put it lightly, that's a bunch of bull shooting. :popcorn:

 

You'll have to break down "bull shooting" for me. I have no clue what that means. :lol2:

You'll have to break down "bull shooting" for me. I have no clue what that means. :lol2:

 

Dont do it Jail Bird...don't do it

For the past few years you have had BG... but you have also had Warren Central and/or John Hardin who could take on all comers. There was always a good team from the East and 3-4 solid teams that could at least push them. NKY 5A was good a lone solid team and CKY could produce a team like Franklin County. When you took a 5A Top 10..though it was dominated by one team... teams 2-5 could hang with nearly anyone... and teams 6-10 were still very solid clubs.

 

This year you don't have that at all. You have Bowling Green and you have Pulaski...then you have a bad team with a great player in Madison Southern... after that it drops drastically. John Hardin is way down. Warren Central was dominated by a 2A team.

 

By the way I have watched Boyle video...and frankly came away very unimpressed for what i was expecting. I have been following them very closely since they will be moving to 3A. Dont take that as me saying they are a bad team... but I didn't see a team capable of winning a State Title... which being ranked as the clear cut #3 you would expect. They have a very disjointed offense and their defense isn't what you expect from a Coach Smith defense right now. Boyle struggled to put away two teams they appeared to have completely outclassed.

 

Owensboro is the only team in 4A who has legitimately raised eyebrows (outside of the normal subjects)..but the rest of the class seems painfully mediocre. Ashland usually fields a solid team and they are way down. Knox Central at #6 just got beat by a team ranked #6 in the "weak 3A" you just agreed about. This is a team supposed to be the best of the rest according to these rankings. Russell County has had solid teams and they aren't even in the picture.

 

The Quality Depth is not there in either class.... and the dominant teams aren't at their most dominant.

 

Boyle's defense isn't what you would expect? Really? You should watch more film then. 53 points in 5 games and 28 points came from the #7 team in 5A. Given up 7 points or less in the rest of their games.

 

Boyle has defeated the #4 and #7 teams in 5A, the #7 team in 2A(which you say is competitive) and in all of the 4A teams that have played 5 games so far Boyle has given up less points than anyone. But 4A is down this year and Boyle isn't any good? Looks to me that if Boyle isn't any good then a whole lot of teams aren't any good.

After Madisonville's win, I'd put them a little higher.

 

Henderson is never really "down" in the grand scheme of things.

 

Maybe that was one of those games where some freak things happened, and it just snow-balled, but a 49-0 win over Henderson speaks volumes to me.

Dont do it Jail Bird...don't do it

 

I get it now. Yeah, don't do it Jail Bird. We have rules on here. :lol2:

After Madisonville's win, I'd put them a little higher.

 

Henderson is never really "down" in the grand scheme of things.

 

Maybe that was one of those games where some freak things happened, and it just snow-balled, but a 49-0 win over Henderson speaks volumes to me.

 

Covington Catholic 49

Henderson County 28

 

 

Madisonville-North Hopkins 49

Henderson County 0

 

 

 

But yeah, 4A is down this year. I tell ya.

After Madisonville's win, I'd put them a little higher.

 

Henderson is never really "down" in the grand scheme of things.

 

Maybe that was one of those games where some freak things happened, and it just snow-balled, but a 49-0 win over Henderson speaks volumes to me.

 

Henderson County still has Owensboro and McCracken County. Poor fellas. :lol2:

 

Makes me glad my guy didn't go for that job. That's a helluva schedule.

I hope we have someone giving us updates on Owensboro and Madisonville-NH.

I won't be there. Madisonville has a big line as does Oboro. @ Madisonville also. Using Henderson as the bar Madisonville would seem as good or better than covcath. Maybe this is the state championship game...

I won't be there. Madisonville has a big line as does Oboro. @ Madisonville also. Using Henderson as the bar Madisonville would seem as good or better than covcath. Maybe this is the state championship game...

 

I agree. THis game is every bit as intriguing as CovCath/Highlands. It doesn't have the stature that CovCath/Highlands has but for what we know now and for what is at stake both games are equally important.

\ Looks to me that if Boyle isn't any good then a whole lot of teams aren't any good.

 

Agreed

Boyle's defense isn't what you would expect? Really? You should watch more film then. 53 points in 5 games and 28 points came from the #7 team in 5A. Given up 7 points or less in the rest of their games.

 

Boyle has defeated the #4 and #7 teams in 5A, the #7 team in 2A(which you say is competitive) and in all of the 4A teams that have played 5 games so far Boyle has given up less points than anyone. But 4A is down this year and Boyle isn't any good? Looks to me that if Boyle isn't any good then a whole lot of teams aren't any good.

 

 

Carefully re-read how I phrased it. I said

"They have a very disjointed offense and their defense isn't what you expect from a Coach Smith defense right now"

 

1) You already critiqued the offense yourself

 

2) This defense isn't in the same hemisphere as the Boyle defenses during Smith's previous tenure. It's not a bad defense, but those were defenses that utterly dominated games to the point you were surprised even if a good team could string together a drive. Those were defenses stock full of speed and heavy hitters.

 

This Boyle defense simply does not meet that criteria. It's good. It's good enough to win their Region for sure. It's not good enough to feel confident that if Highlands or CovCath rolled into town that you could score 2 TD's and win the game.

 

This isn't even one of the best Anderson County offenses of the past 5 years but they sustained success against Boyle. No doubt Smith will improve this team.. but let's call it what it is there are no Quinn, Leffew, Overstreet, Dawson, etc on this team on defense... there also clearly aren't the playmakers from year's past on Offense.

Carefully re-read how I phrased it. I said

"They have a very disjointed offense and their defense isn't what you expect from a Coach Smith defense right now"

 

1) You already critiqued the offense yourself

 

2) This defense isn't in the same hemisphere as the Boyle defenses during Smith's previous tenure. It's not a bad defense, but those were defenses that utterly dominated games to the point you were surprised even if a good team could string together a drive. Those were defenses stock full of speed and heavy hitters.

 

This Boyle defense simply does not meet that criteria. It's good. It's good enough to win their Region for sure. It's not good enough to feel confident that if Highlands or CovCath rolled into town that you could score 2 TD's and win the game.

 

This isn't even one of the best Anderson County offenses of the past 5 years but they sustained success against Boyle. No doubt Smith will improve this team.. but let's call it what it is there are no Quinn, Leffew, Overstreet, Dawson, etc on this team on defense... there also clearly aren't the playmakers from year's past on Offense.

 

Anyone knows that the level of Smith's defenses when he left were a combo of scheme and once in a lifetime defenders.

 

Bobby Leffew - 4 year starter in UL defensive front

Travis Leffew - 4 year starter in UL offensive wall

Justin Nichols

Michael Paul Webb

Matt Quinn

Jeff Duggins

Brodie Overstreet - Starting OG for Wake Forest as a Red-shirt Frosh before an injury ended his career

 

Those kind of kids are rare for any level program. But I think given time, the defense will develop even stronger this year and in years to come. The one thing that Smith's teams always seemed to do was improve greatly from the start of the season to the end.

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