This OK?

I'd move my team to LA if I were Snyder.

 

Why? He's making money hand over fist in DC and that's not going to stop.

I think that would a)never be considered and b)if it was done just as a threat no one would take it seriously. The team will NEVER leave DC.

 

This

If it's racist and so disparaging to use the name Redskins as a mascot name, why then would a high school located on the Navajo Reservation in Red Mesa, Arizona in which nearly 100% of it’s students are Navajo call themselves Redskins?

 

RMUSD #27 / Red Mesa High School

Why? He's making money hand over fist in DC and that's not going to stop.

 

3rd most valuable NFL franchise.

If it's racist and so disparaging to use the name Redskins as a mascot name, why then would a high school located on the Navajo Reservation in Red Mesa, Arizona in which nearly 100% of it’s students are Navajo call themselves Redskins?

 

RMUSD #27 / Red Mesa High School

 

YAAAAAAAY WE FOUND ONE!!! See, we told you it wasn't racist!

 

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List of American Tribal Councils that have already voiced opposition to the name:

 

Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians

Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma

Comanche Nation of Oklahoma

The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation (Washington)

Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians (Michigan)

Hoh Indian Tribe

Inter Tribal Council of Arizona

Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes

Juaneño Band of Mission Indians (California)

Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (Michigan)

Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, Gun Lake Tribe (Michigan)

Menominee Tribe of Indians (Wisconsin)

Oneida Indian Nation (New York)

Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin

Navajo Nation Council

Penobscot Nation

Poarch Band of Creek Indians

Samish Indian Nation (Washington)

Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians (Michigan)

Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Idaho)

Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota)

The Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation (North Dakota)

United South and Eastern Tribes (USET)

 

not to mention the National Council of Native American Tribes.

 

Tribal Councils Voicing Support for the Name:

 

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If the name isn't insulting, then Snyder should start calling them that in his press conferences instead of the hateful, PC nonsense of "Native Americans."

Edited June 19, 201412 yr by Getslow

I think that would a)never be considered and b)if it was done just as a threat no one would take it seriously. The team will NEVER leave DC.

 

The idea would be for the all the Skin fans to push back against the moral minority.

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This OK?

 

So, if this gets the same treatment as the Redskins, could someone start selling chewing tobacco with the same name and logo?

3rd most valuable NFL franchise.

 

That surprised me when the list came out. Just goes to show it's easy to make money in the NFL.

YAAAAAAAY WE FOUND ONE!!! See, we told you it wasn't racist!

 

* * * *

 

List of American Tribal Councils that have already voiced opposition to the name:

 

Affiliated Tribes of Northwest Indians

Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma

Comanche Nation of Oklahoma

The Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation (Washington)

Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians (Michigan)

Hoh Indian Tribe

Inter Tribal Council of Arizona

Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes

Juaneño Band of Mission Indians (California)

Little River Band of Ottawa Indians (Michigan)

Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians, Gun Lake Tribe (Michigan)

Menominee Tribe of Indians (Wisconsin)

Oneida Indian Nation (New York)

Oneida Tribe of Indians of Wisconsin

Navajo Nation Council

Penobscot Nation

Poarch Band of Creek Indians

Samish Indian Nation (Washington)

Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians (Michigan)

Shoshone-Bannock Tribes (Idaho)

Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota)

The Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation (North Dakota)

United South and Eastern Tribes (USET)

 

not to mention the National Council of Native American Tribes.

 

Tribal Councils Voicing Support for the Name:

 

....

 

 

If the name isn't insulting, then Snyder should start calling them that in his press conferences instead of the hateful, PC nonsense of "Native Americans."

I remember reading a poll late last year where there were many Native Americans that had no problem with the mascot name.

The Beothuk Tribe were said to paint their bodies with red ochre, leading white settlers to refer to them as "red men." Early historical records indicate that "Redskin" was used as a self-identifier by Native Americans to differentiate between them and the white man. Who made it derogatory? When did it change? It was when the phrase gained widespread usage among whites when James Fenimore Cooper used it in his 1823 novel The Pioneers. The Pioneers and other books by Cooper were largely seen as sympathetic toward Native Americans and their struggles in the 1800s. Decades later, the word "redskin" began to take on a negative, increasingly violent connotation. Sorry for the history lesson, but my point is it wasn't started as a slur, it was just later perceived, by whites, to be one and somehow stuck.

Hey, if we're going to call it racist, then you must support an end to war chants and gestures during sporting events like we see from the Atlanta Braves, KC Chiefs and the Florida State Seminoles.

I remember reading a poll late last year where there were many Native Americans that had no problem with the mascot name.

The Beothuk Tribe were said to paint their bodies with red ochre, leading white settlers to refer to them as "red men." Early historical records indicate that "Redskin" was used as a self-identifier by Native Americans to differentiate between them and the white man. Who made it derogatory? When did it change? It was when the phrase gained widespread usage among whites when James Fenimore Cooper used it in his 1823 novel The Pioneers. The Pioneers and other books by Cooper were largely seen as sympathetic toward Native Americans and their struggles in the 1800s. Decades later, the word "redskin" began to take on a negative, increasingly violent connotation. Sorry for the history lesson, but my point is it wasn't started as a slur, it was just later perceived, by whites, to be one and somehow stuck.

Hey, if we're going to call it racist, then you must support an end to war chants and gestures during sporting events like we see from the Atlanta Braves, KC Chiefs and the Florida State Seminoles.

 

So if it was white people that started this, then what's with all the tribes that are against it? Is their white guilt taking over too?

So if it was white people that started this, then what's with all the tribes that are against it? Is their white guilt taking over too?

You deny the history? The fact they referred to themselves as redskins?

You deny the history? The fact they referred to themselves as redskins?

 

Not denying it. Don't know it.

 

So I'll take you at your word.

 

What does that mean for the fact that over the last 40 years (basically since the American Indian Movement started), Native American groups have grown increasingly louder in their denunciation of such names? These people were stepped on for 400 years of colonial and U.S. history and now, as their voice has gotten louder, they've grown increasingly defiant in the face of such things.

If it's racist and so disparaging to use the name Redskins as a mascot name, why then would a high school located on the Navajo Reservation in Red Mesa, Arizona in which nearly 100% of it’s students are Navajo call themselves Redskins?

 

RMUSD #27 / Red Mesa High School

 

 

I know tons of blacks who use the n-word daily. Does that make it okay for everyone to use it now?

Not denying it. Don't know it.

 

So I'll take you at your word.

 

What does that mean for the fact that over the last 40 years (basically since the American Indian Movement started), Native American groups have grown increasingly louder in their denunciation of such names? These people were stepped on for 400 years of colonial and U.S. history and now, as their voice has gotten louder, they've grown increasingly defiant in the face of such things.

First, let me be clear that I have no dog in the fight. It won't matter to me if they change the name or not. I'm not a Redskins fan, so I really don't care.

Groups are often politically motivated, meaning that some of them may have liberal leanings, just as many that claim it doesn't bother them may have conservative leanings. This has only been a big deal in recent years, last 20 or so, so I wonder myself why their voice has gotten louder.