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IRS Claims Computer Crashed - Lerner Emails to White House Gone

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man that IRS guy was smug as all get out ! I'd like to smack that old man. what an arrogant govt official.

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Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. Therefore, print and file email and its attachments if they are either permanent records or if they relate to a specific case.

 

So I'm not an I.T. guy, but if the IRS is using an application for their email like MS Outlook, then it is really plausible that the back up system is "tape" ? Maybe I'm not getting it, but if they have upgraded their application and use MS products, then couldn't we logically assume that they also use some type of server backup other than "tape" ?

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…and I was a Paul Ryan before, but not a big one. After today, I am on his bandwagon. Maybe not for President, but this guy was on his game today. I hope the IRS guy doesn't sleep tonight, but I'm guessing he can live himself and his total lying life.

man that IRS guy was smug as all get out ! I'd like to smack that old man. what an arrogant govt official.

 

According to his bio he is a 1957 graduate of Ashland High School.

Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. Therefore, print and file email and its attachments if they are either permanent records or if they relate to a specific case.

 

So I'm not an I.T. guy, but if the IRS is using an application for their email like MS Outlook, then it is really plausible that the back up system is "tape" ? Maybe I'm not getting it, but if they have upgraded their application and use MS products, then couldn't we logically assume that they also use some type of server backup other than "tape" ?

 

MS Outlook is almost the defacto-standard of large organizations. While the 'client-side' seems like a basic PC app the 'back-end' is a very robust and power messaging platform that runs on large intel-based servers that would be tied to large robust backup infrastructure (backups are usually managed by separate servers that interact with the data-source servers and then transfer the data to backup media - usually tapes. Other options include wide-area disk to disk (sometimes called remote data vaulting) or optical archive. But it seems from their own documentation tapes are backup media of choice there.

 

MS-Office is the most common organizational email system by far. The closest competitor is IBM's Lotus notes. So the use of this product should not indicate a lack of robustness in the IT environment.

I find it very hard to believe that the hard drives of seven different IRS employees containing archived email messages subpoenaed by Congress crashed. However, government data systems are often not backed up and as secure as most Americans believe. Depending on the agency, there are some ridiculously inefficient and short-sighted policies in place. It is much more important that federal employees be compensated with pay and benefits commensurate with their lofty positions (i.e., our ruling class) than it is to maintain robust data systems.

 

So, while it is extremely likely that the IRS has destroyed incriminating evidence in this case, never underestimate the inefficiency or the incompetence of your federal government. My guess is that billions of dollars are wasted every year because of bad choices in data management and software procurement at the federal level.

 

I hate Outlook and Exchange but Microsoft does a much better marketing its product line than IBM does marketing Domino and Notes. Both Outlook and Notes mail systems can be robust, but any system is at the mercy of those who manage them.

 

Grilling the crooked politicians managing the IRS may make for good politics, but if Congress really wants to get to the bottom of what happened, then they need to start putting the IT staff under oath - people who may be as angry at the loss of emails as most Americans are.

 

The White House is playing a game of Beat the Clock with a multitude of scandals, and in a little over two years, Obama and company will be home free. If that happens, we can expect a future where liberal Democrats boast about how squeaky clean the Obama administration was because Republicans failed to prove their allegations. Justice delayed is justice denied, and it is beginning to look like Obama and Holder may be denied justice for their criminal behavior.

And don't forget how the Attorney General has helped protect the President and his cronie pieces of crap administration.

According to his bio he is a 1957 graduate of Ashland High School.

This is true, from Ashland, Kentucky.

According to his bio he is a 1957 graduate of Ashland High School.

August 2, 2013

Ashland community reacts to Koskinen news with pride

 

Mark Maynard

The Independent

ASHLAND — It was just last summer that John Koskinen was riding around Ashland and touring homes as part of the Putnam Stadium Home Tour.

 

Today he’s about to become the man in charge of the Internal Revenue Service.

 

Koskinen, the 1957 Ashland High School graduate, was chosen by President Barack Obama on Thursday to take over the IRS which is under fire for targeting political groups.

 

Obama said his nominee for commissioner of the tax agency “is an expert at turning around institutions in need of reform.”

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I find it very hard to believe that the hard drives of seven different IRS employees containing archived email messages subpoenaed by Congress crashed. However, government data systems are often not backed up and as secure as most Americans believe. Depending on the agency, there are some ridiculously inefficient and short-sighted policies in place. It is much more important that federal employees be compensated with pay and benefits commensurate with their lofty positions (i.e., our ruling class) than it is to maintain robust data systems.

 

So, while it is extremely likely that the IRS has destroyed incriminating evidence in this case, never underestimate the inefficiency or the incompetence of your federal government. My guess is that billions of dollars are wasted every year because of bad choices in data management and software procurement at the federal level.

 

I hate Outlook and Exchange but Microsoft does a much better marketing its product line than IBM does marketing Domino and Notes. Both Outlook and Notes mail systems can be robust, but any system is at the mercy of those who manage them.

 

Grilling the crooked politicians managing the IRS may make for good politics, but if Congress really wants to get to the bottom of what happened, then they need to start putting the IT staff under oath - people who may be as angry at the loss of emails as most Americans are.

 

The White House is playing a game of Beat the Clock with a multitude of scandals, and in a little over two years, Obama and company will be home free. If that happens, we can expect a future where liberal Democrats boast about how squeaky clean the Obama administration was because Republicans failed to prove their allegations. Justice delayed is justice denied, and it is beginning to look like Obama and Holder may be denied justice for their criminal behavior.

 

I put this squarely on the gutlessness of Republicans. Take a stand and don't quit until you get answers. Continue to serve in fear and be fearful of serving in the future.

I put this squarely on the gutlessness of Republicans. Take a stand and don't quit until you get answers. Continue to serve in fear and be fearful of serving in the future.
I agree. Boehner, Cantor, and the rest of the House leadership team need to go. Mark Levin explained last night how Boehner has made it much less likely that the House will get to the bottom of what happened in the IRS scandal through his incompetence.

 

Levin and his Landmark Legal organization took the EPA to court near the end of the Clinton administration and several employees were held accountable when they destroyed evidence pertaining to a civil lawsuit. There are some sharp Republicans in the House but Boehner has been afraid to put them in charge of anything important, with the possible exception of Trey Gowdy. Congressman Gowdy should have been heading up the IRS investigation from the beginning.

 

(Paul Ryan delivered a strong performance in questioning the IRS Commissioner last week but he spends most of his time dancing to Boehner's tune, IMO.)

Wonder if Sonasoft (email backup company) still uses the IRS as a reference?

 

From 2009:

 

 

"If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn't you choose them to protect your severs? http://www.sonasoft.com"

Wonder if Sonasoft (email backup company) still uses the IRS as a reference?

 

From 2009:

 

 

"If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn't you choose them to protect your severs? http://www.sonasoft.com"

I read elsewhere that the size of their contract with the IRS was $13,000. If that is true, then they could not have provided service to the entire agency.

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