I don't know that you could definitively say that, but it certainly seems as though it would increase the odds.

So, we are all "born gay"?

So, we are all "born gay"?

 

I would view the island/prison scenario as circumstantial homosexuality borne out of a lack of options. Guys will do some crazy things if they're backed up for too long.

I don't know that you could definitively say that, but it certainly seems as though it would increase the odds.

 

His odds don't increase if I'M the other guy on that island with him. Or, at least his odds of getting "lucky" don't increase any.:no:

His odds don't increase if I'M the other guy on that island with him. Or, at least his odds of getting "lucky" don't increase any.:no:

 

See post #32.

I would view the island/prison scenario as circumstantial homosexuality borne out of a lack of options. Guys will do some crazy things if they're backed up for too long.

So, we are all born with the possibility of being gay, if the circumstances are right?

 

What if a homosexual person is trapped on an island with a person of the opposite sex, they are the only two on the island? Could that homosexual person become heterosexual?

So, we are all born with the possibility of being gay, if the circumstances are right?

 

What if a homosexual person is trapped on an island with a person of the opposite sex, they are the only two on the island? Could that homosexual person become heterosexual?

Impossible...it only works one way

So, you are saying that if me and one other man were stranded on an island for five years, just the two of us, I would become gay?

Depends on how much you enjoy it.

I have some homosexual friends, and they get mad when people say they are "born homosexual", they claim they made the decision to be homosexual and scoff at the thought of being "born gay".

I have heard some homosexuals say "why would I choose to put myself through the problems with family and friends if I can choose my preference?".

I have heard some homosexuals say "why would I choose to put myself through the problems with family and friends if I can choose my preference?".

 

But a lot of people make decisions that are going to cause problems with some friends and family. I understand the statement though, just don't think it applies any differently here than to other many life decisions.

So, you are saying that if me and one other man were stranded on an island for five years, just the two of us, I would become gay?

 

Maybe not by choice. Depends on how big that other guy is. :banana:

But a lot of people make decisions that are going to cause problems with some friends and family. I understand the statement though, just don't think it applies any differently here than to other many life decisions.

 

There may be some who play both sides in fits of whimsical fancy and experimentation. I would bet they are a small fraction. Others are just generally uninhibited and are fine with being bisexual. I would bet they, as well, are a small fraction.

 

But I seriously doubt that the majority of homosexuals readily choose a life of ostracization from their families and friends. They aren't doing it to "cause problems" or be a selfish attention-seeker. It's just who they are and they just want to live their lives, and their families and friends can't always deal with it.

 

It's why my cousin moved to Portland from Indiana. I'm sure it was probably miserable for him to be around his hardcore right-wing Catholic parents, and what was likely an insufferable amount of browbeating from them. They're probably still trying to pray the gay away. He put up a front, hanging around with girls around them for what must have been a good 10 years before they got wise to it, just to keep them from … reacting how he knew they would. Irrationally.

^ You did a much better job of explaining it, Jim.

There may be some who play both sides in fits of whimsical fancy and experimentation. I would bet they are a small fraction. Others are just generally uninhibited and are fine with being bisexual. I would bet they, as well, are a small fraction.

 

But I seriously doubt that the majority of homosexuals readily choose a life of ostracization from their families and friends. They aren't doing it to "cause problems" or be a selfish attention-seeker. It's just who they are and they just want to live their lives, and their families and friends can't always deal with it.

 

It's why my cousin moved to Portland from Indiana. I'm sure it was probably miserable for him to be around his hardcore right-wing Catholic parents, and what was likely an insufferable amount of browbeating from them. They're probably still trying to pray the gay away. He put up a front, hanging around with girls around them for what must have been a good 10 years before they got wise to it, just to keep them from … reacting how he knew they would. Irrationally.

 

I agree with everything you said, but I also know the bolded is changing everyday and in more cases than not parents accept their child regardless of if they agree or disagree with their life style. I have had several friends and some family members that were homosexual and of everyone I know only one felt the need to leave "Home" due to being given a hard time. Some left on their own to go to areas where they felt they personally would like it better but only one left because of reaction of family or friends.

 

I don't understand how a parent's can act like that...you love your kids UNCONDITIONALLY!!!

I agree with everything you said, but I also know the bolded is changing everyday and in more cases than not parents accept their child regardless of if they agree or disagree with their life style. I have had several friends and some family members that were homosexual and of everyone I know only one felt the need to leave "Home" due to being given a hard time. Some left on their own to go to areas where they felt they personally would like it better but only one left because of reaction of family or friends.

 

I don't understand how a parent's can act like that...you love your kids UNCONDITIONALLY!!!

I read recently that near 40% of homeless are lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth. That's very disheartening.

I agree with everything you said, but I also know the bolded is changing everyday and in more cases than not parents accept their child regardless of if they agree or disagree with their life style. I have had several friends and some family members that were homosexual and of everyone I know only one felt the need to leave "Home" due to being given a hard time. Some left on their own to go to areas where they felt they personally would like it better but only one left because of reaction of family or friends.

 

I don't understand how a parent's can act like that...you love your kids UNCONDITIONALLY!!!

 

The inability to reconcile unconditional love with faith is usually the culprit. Also, the general ickiness a large portion of society has about male homosexuality comes into play heavily.