When the stats are on your side, argue the stats, when the stats don't support your position, attack your opponent's position as foolish and short-sighted...:lol2:

 

Sorry, I am a numbers guy and the numbers say that Cal was a mediocre NBA coach and then suddenly he was looking for a new job. Those are the facts, but you can take whatever stance you want.

 

The numbers say bad rosters don't win much in pro sports regardless of who is coaching the team. Cal took over a bad roster, had a bad season followed by a solid season and then it fell apart in year 3 in large part due to injuries at the top of said shaky roster. Just looking at numbers with no context is foolish and short sighted any way you slice it...

You're right, it does not matter. Good coaches find ways to win games when they are out manned. Their teams don't suffer total collapses because of an injury or two. If you take recruiting out of the equation, Calipari is not a great coach and that is what I think makes him a poor fit for the NBA. He is a great fit for UK and like I said, he would be smart to retire there.

 

Doc Rivers last year in Boston. Or is Doc not a good coach either? Mike D'Antoni not a good coach? He was outmanned all year and guided the Lakers to a lottery spot.

And Kittles was already out and Jayson Williams got his nose broke in that first game.

 

Cal left and the Nets finished no better than 6th or 7th the next three seasons.

Actually, three years after the Nets canned Calipari during the 1998-99 season, they made it to the NBA finals in the 2001-02 season under Byron Scott.

When the stats are on your side, argue the stats, when the stats don't support your position, attack your opponent's position as foolish and short-sighted...:lol2:

 

Sorry, I am a numbers guy and the numbers say that Cal was a mediocre NBA coach and then suddenly he was looking for a new job. Those are the facts, but you can take whatever stance you want.

 

Bill Belichick had a horrible record as a head coach in the NFL before the Pats hired him.

Actually, three years after the Nets canned Calipari during the 1998-99 season, they made it to the NBA finals in the 2001-02 season under Byron Scott.

 

Yeah, with a whole new roster. Come on now......

You're right, it does not matter. Good coaches find ways to win games when they are out manned. Their teams don't suffer total collapses because of an injury or two. If you take recruiting out of the equation, Calipari is not a great coach and that is what I think makes him a poor fit for the NBA. He is a great fit for UK and like I said, he would be smart to retire there.

 

 

That's like saying Tex Winter isn't a good coach if you take out his whole innovating the triangle offense. Yep, aside from that, he's a marginal coach. What's his record on his own in the NBA? (Hint: less than a 39.6% winning percentage).

 

Same for Larry Shyatt and the whole revamping Florida's defense during the back-to-back title runs. Now, he's just a marginal coach at Wyoming.

 

Recruiting is a huge part of coaching. Take away the one factor that makes any top coach special and they aren't as good.

 

Cal is a good recruiter because he's a player's coach and he sticks up for his kids. It's not his fault that the rules of the game are the way they are, he just plays it.

The numbers say bad rosters don't win much in pro sports regardless of who is coaching the team. Cal took over a bad roster, had a bad season followed by a solid season and then it fell apart in year 3 in large part due to injuries at the top of said shaky roster. Just looking at numbers with no context is foolish and short sighted any way you slice it...

So, you don't think that the Nets took the context of Calipari's poor record into account when they decided to fire him. What kind of insider information do you have that Calipari's boss lacked?

Actually, three years after the Nets canned Calipari during the 1998-99 season, they made it to the NBA finals in the 2001-02 season under Byron Scott.

 

Also had Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson in top 5 players as well has a healthy Kerry Kittles to go along with Van Horn

So' date=' you don't think that the Nets took the context of Calipari's poor record into account when they decided to fire him. What kind of insider information do you have that Calipari's boss lacked?[/quote']

 

Coaches get fired because the front office builds a crappy roster all the time. Ask Joe Torre and Bill Belichick...

Doc Rivers last year in Boston. Or is Doc not a good coach either? Mike D'Antoni not a good coach? He was outmanned all year and guided the Lakers to a lottery spot.

3-17. Were Doc Rivers or D'Antoni ever fired for such a poor start following a playoff season?

 

You are comparing apples to oranges. Calipari lasted less than 2-1/2 seasons in the NBA. Rivers and D'Antoni have both had long, successful careers and have won over 50% of their games.

 

All I am reading are excuses for Calipari's brief, unsuccessful NBA coaching career. Excuses are all you have because Coach Cal was not around long enough to accomplish anything that you can hang your hat on.

 

Face it, some guys are just better fits for the college game and Calipari is one of them. There is no shame in that.

And the reality is Cal got ran out of Jersey in large part because of a poor relationship with his bosses. That's what tends to happen when the coach knows he is expected to win with subpar talent...

Also had Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson in top 5 players as well has a healthy Kerry Kittles to go along with Van Horn

I was just correcting your statement that the Nets finished no better than 6th in the three seasons after they fired Calipari. There is no question that they had a much better roster.

I was just correcting your statement that the Nets finished no better than 6th in the three seasons after they fired Calipari. There is no question that they had a much better roster.

I was counting the rest of that season and then the next two.

And the reality is Cal got ran out of Jersey in large part because of a poor relationship with his bosses. That's what tends to happen when the coach knows he is expected to win with subpar talent...

No doubt that the Nets gave Calipari a coaching challenge but he accepted it, along with loads of cash to perform. He failed and was fired. How many coaches have started a season 3-17 and not been fired, regardless of the situation? Not many is my guess.

I was counting the rest of that season and then the next two.

After a 3-17 start, the Nets went 13-17 for the remainder of that season, so Calipari's successor managed to stop the bleeding.