Wasn't he an independent?

No, he was and as far as I know is still a Republican.

 

I'd say Colin Powell felt tremendous pressure when it came time to cast his vote. The pressure on black people to be pro-black is hard to explain and something I don't think could ever be truly comprehended by white people. It is unexplainable.

 

Plus, we'll never truly know who he voted for in the voting booth. He could tell the public one thing and privately vote the other. :lol2:

I can understand why somebody would secretly vote for Obama because he is black - but who in there right mind would publicly endorse Obama and then vote against him? The damage was done to his reputation when he made the endorsement (twice). Nothing can unring that bell. :lol2:

No, he was and as far as I know is still a Republican.

 

I can understand why somebody would secretly vote for Obama because he is black - but who in there right mind would publicly endorse Obama and then vote against him? The damage was done to his reputation when he made the endorsement (twice). Nothing can unring that bell. :lol2:

 

 

Very true. Maybe he just wanted some street cred. :lol2:

 

I'd say Colin Powell felt tremendous pressure when it came time to cast his vote. The pressure on black people to be pro-black is hard to explain and something I don't think could ever be truly comprehended by white people. It is unexplainable.

 

You wouldn't say that if you knew how it felt to be white but hate Larry Bird. Talk about pressure.

You wouldn't say that if you knew how it felt to be white but hate Larry Bird. Talk about pressure.

 

:lol2:

 

You're right. I wouldn't understand. :lol2:

You completely missed the entire scope and context of that post. Inside jokes between me and spin. :lol2:

I knew you weren't serious just poking you a little

I have never considered Powell to be a conservative but I had considered him a moderate Republican. For somebody whose name was bandied about as a potential GOP presidential or VP candidate, it is a long trip across the political spectrum to openly support a presidential candidate like Obama.

 

I could forgive a black Republican for crossing over to vote for the first black president in American but to endorse Obama for a second term after four years of failure was inexcusable. Any Republican who supported Obama for a second term should do the honorable thing and formally switch parties.

 

I would point out that "four years of failure" is an opinion. Perphaps, like many people, he does not think that the first four years were a failure. During the Presidents first term the economy was rescued from the brink of a Great Depression style colapse, the most important piece of domestic legislation in nearly fifty years (the ACA) was passed, Osama bin Laden was killed and the economy was turned to at least start in the right direction. All in all, my opinion is that it was a very succesful first term.

I would point out that "four years of failure" is an opinion. Perphaps, like many people, he does not think that the first four years were a failure. During the Presidents first term the economy was rescued from the brink of a Great Depression style colapse, the most important piece of domestic legislation in nearly fifty years (the ACA) was passed, Osama bin Laden was killed and the economy was turned to at least start in the right direction. All in all, my opinion is that it was a very succesful first term.

Yes, it is my opinion that Obama's first term consisted of four years of serial failures. I am sorry that I did not post that disclaimer in my original post, but I thought it was obvious that it was an opinion. :lol2:

 

Please feel free to list all of Obama's successes during his first term. Keep in mind that the labor participation rate is lower now than it was when Obama took office and the number of Americans who are not in the workforce recently peaked (unless it continues to climb) under the watch of this "successful" president. Oh, and don't forget to include all of Obama's foreign policy triumphs in your list of his accomplishments.

 

Seriously, I was obviously speaking from the perspective of an average Republican (I am a libertarian who votes for Republicans as the lesser of two evils). No life long Republican could have considered Obama's first term a success if they truly believed much of their own party's platform. Especially a Republican who had invested so much time and effort serving in high positions within Republican administrations.

I would point out that "four years of failure" is an opinion. Perphaps, like many people, he does not think that the first four years were a failure. During the Presidents first term the economy was rescued from the brink of a Great Depression style colapse, the most important piece of domestic legislation in nearly fifty years (the ACA) was passed, Osama bin Laden was killed and the economy was turned to at least start in the right direction. All in all, my opinion is that it was a very succesful first term.

 

Going to take some serious convincing to get me to believe he had anything to do with this. This was an ongoing mission that was passed from commander to commander. I have absolutely no doubt that he had any influence on the strategy being applied in the field. He was briefed on the status as it developed and the mission continued in spite of him being the CIC.

Going to take some serious convincing to get me to believe he had anything to do with this. This was an ongoing mission that was passed from commander to commander. I have absolutely no doubt that he had any influence on the strategy being applied in the field. He was briefed on the status as it developed and the mission continued in spite of him being the CIC.

 

Had that mission been a failure who would get the blame? Obama or the commanders?

Both, but the President would have taken most of the blame.

Going to take some serious convincing to get me to believe he had anything to do with this. This was an ongoing mission that was passed from commander to commander. I have absolutely no doubt that he had any influence on the strategy being applied in the field. He was briefed on the status as it developed and the mission continued in spite of him being the CIC.

 

That just isn't accurate. The President took some heat when he said that he would go after bin Laden in Pakistan back during the campaign. It isn't at all clear that a different CIC would have made the same decision.

That just isn't accurate. The President took some heat when he said that he would go after bin Laden in Pakistan back during the campaign. It isn't at all clear that a different CIC would have made the same decision.

 

Big difference in him having a hand in field strategy and giving the go ahead to pull the trigger. Believe me, they followed this guy all over and had to get the ok to pull the trigger. Giving a go is not the same as having input into the plan. Ongoing missions are planned and executed, briefed back up the chain and the CIC rarely, if ever, makes strategic changes to the military plan…they just authorize the action. We don't have CIC's anymore that have the in-depth and hands on knowledge of what is going on…..for instance, Benghazi...