May 12, 201412 yr Bad taste? Definitely. Like Thumper's mother said, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all". But for the Dolphins to go so far as to fine him and remove him from the team until he gets sensitivity training, is a bit much, IMO. Apparently, Mr. Jones is against homosexuality and in this feel good world of today, he now has the minority opinion and will have to learn to keep his mouth shut about that subject. Don't worry man, it's still acceptable to say bad things about white people! Tweet away...
May 12, 201412 yr He's insignificant on their roster, so he can be made example of. Mike Pouncey on the other hand made a more agregious comment last week, but Mike is significant on their roster and he only got a talking to. Bad form at least.
May 12, 201412 yr the NFL nor Scripps is willing to risk economic backlash over homophobic comments. ...I canned a guy on a jobsite for making racist remarks. I don't see why this guy's boss can't can him for making disparaging remarks about a gay person. . Issues of intolerance will likely be dealt with pretty harshly by the Dolphins. Where was it he said anything racist or anti gay? He said 'OMG' and 'Horrible.' I said a lot worse.
May 12, 201412 yr Where was it he said anything racist or anti gay? He said 'OMG' and 'Horrible.' I said a lot worse. It was pretty clear what he was responding to. And just because you've said a lot worse things doesn't make it okay - for either you or him.
May 12, 201412 yr It was pretty clear what he was responding to. And just because you've said a lot worse things doesn't make it okay - for either you or him. So what if he thought 2 grown men kissing on the lips was horrible and if it shocked him I thinks its nasty and disgusting. Yes I did say worse when I seen it as did everyone I know. You cant say a straight man didnt think that was God awful when he saw it. I dont have to sit back and be force fed gay pride and made to think its ok or acceptable. To me its not. Do I dislike Sams, NO. Just dont agree with his lifestyle, like he dont agree with mine. And if he says something about me kissing a woman, so be it, I dont care. Would the Dolphin player be suspended or fined if he said samething about a guy kissing a woman?
May 12, 201412 yr So what if he thought 2 grown men kissing on the lips was horrible and if it shocked him I thinks its nasty and disgusting. Yes I did say worse when I seen it as did everyone I know. You cant say a straight man didnt think that was God awful when he saw it. I dont have to sit back and be force fed gay pride and made to think its ok or acceptable. To me its not. Do I dislike Sams, NO. Just dont agree with his lifestyle, like he dont agree with mine. And if he says something about me kissing a woman, so be it, I dont care. Would the Dolphin player be suspended or fined if he said samething about a guy kissing a woman? 1. The kiss didn't bother me. The cake was over the top IMO but ...so what? 2. He should be suspended for simply being a mental midget. If there's ONE team in the NFL on high alert about casting aspersions it's his team. 3. Your employer has the right to discipline you for espousing views . Period. The country is changing, holmes. We're not as religious as we used to be. We're not as white as we used to be. We're not as conservative as we used to be. You do not to like it or be happy about it. However, in order to keep your sanity, you do need to accept it and figure out where you fit in and how you can not lose your mind every time something happens that offends you.
May 12, 201412 yr 1. The kiss didn't bother me. The cake was over the top IMO but ...so what? 2. He should be suspended for simply being a mental midget. If there's ONE team in the NFL on high alert about casting aspersions it's his team. 3. Your employer has the right to discipline you for espousing views . Period. The country is changing, holmes. We're not as religious as we used to be. We're not as white as we used to be. We're not as conservative as we used to be. You do not to like it or be happy about it. However, in order to keep your sanity, you do need to accept it and figure out where you fit in and how you can not lose your mind every time something happens that offends you. I agree with everything you say, honestly. BUT! I dont agree with how we have had to bow down to not being allowed to even say horrible/OMG about a gay kiss. Seriously, that is way over the top. I will still fight the good fight till last breath I dont like having conformity forced on me.
May 12, 201412 yr I agree with everything you say, honestly. BUT! I dont agree with how we have had to bow down to not being allowed to even say horrible/OMG about a gay kiss. Seriously, that is way over the top. I will still fight the good fight till last breath I dont like having conformity forced on me. Who says "we" have to bow down? This is strictly an employee/employer thing.
May 12, 201412 yr So what if he thought 2 grown men kissing on the lips was horrible and if it shocked him I thinks its nasty and disgusting. Yes I did say worse when I seen it as did everyone I know. You cant say a straight man didnt think that was God awful when he saw it. I dont have to sit back and be force fed gay pride and made to think its ok or acceptable. To me its not. Do I dislike Sams, NO. Just dont agree with his lifestyle, like he dont agree with mine. And if he says something about me kissing a woman, so be it, I dont care. Would the Dolphin player be suspended or fined if he said samething about a guy kissing a woman? He's allowed to be shocked. But he's also a public figure who represents a company whose profitability is largely based on image. He should have kept it to himself instead of Tweeting it, and since he chose to publicly share his opinion, his employer chose to publicly act in response to his comments by fining and suspending him, as was their right.
May 12, 201412 yr Who says "we" have to bow down? This is strictly an employee/employer thing. Seems like a society thing to me.
May 12, 201412 yr I agree with everything you say, honestly. BUT! I dont agree with how we have had to bow down to not being allowed to even say horrible/OMG about a gay kiss. Seriously, that is way over the top. I will still fight the good fight till last breath I dont like having conformity forced on me. This isn't about conformity, or bending over backwards to appease somebody. Was it maybe uncomfortable for somebody to look at?? Sure. It was a little shocking. But ultimately, it was just two people kissing, sharing a joyous moment together. Doesn't affect me, or change the way I live one bit. I'm also not scared it will make my children gay, or lead to the end of society. There is no "fight" to fight here. Gay people have always, and will continue to be present in society. Straight people "fighting" that, will never change anything. They will exist no matter how hard you fight it. Just like you don't like having conformity forced on you, the gay community doesn't like it very much either. Why is it so difficult to let everyone just enjoy a little happiness regardless of who they like to kiss.
May 13, 201412 yr Author I'm with you. Bad taste, but not vulgar or derogatory in any way. Definitely a violation of his 1st amendment rights. You had me up until violation of his 1st Amendment rights. If this were a governmental organization punishing him (say he worked for a post office), then I'd agree. However, your 1st Amendment rights only apply to governmental interference with your right to exercise freedom of speech, religion, etc.
May 13, 201412 yr You had me up until violation of his 1st Amendment rights. If this were a governmental organization punishing him (say he worked for a post office), then I'd agree. However, your 1st Amendment rights only apply to governmental interference with your right to exercise freedom of speech, religion, etc. I don't need logic to say the things I do
May 13, 201412 yr In all seriousness, I've got no problem with what he said. Had he quoted Leviticus 20:13, then what? Would the Dolphins have fined him and all that jazz? I would have liked to have seen their reaction...
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