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Ralph Nader Suggests an end to the two party "tyranny"

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I don't know about the rest of Nader's platform overall, but I, for one, wouldn't be upset to see the end of two-party rule in the United States.

I don't know about the rest of Nader's platform overall, but I, for one, wouldn't be upset to see the end of two-party rule in the United States.

 

I would not have a problem with it either but my guess is within a short period of time new parties would just form up again. It just seems that people of similar political leaning will naturally bind together.

There's only a two party system because people are too close minded to other ideas.

I would not have a problem with it either but my guess is within a short period of time new parties would just form up again. It just seems that people of similar political leaning will naturally bind together.

 

Countries with proportional representation generally have more minority parties and a wider range of views in their legislative branches. The American system -- with its single-winner districting-- seem, in hindsight, almost seems hard-wired to wind up with two parties. One in power and the other to oppose everything they do; then they switch.

Countries with proportional representation generally have more minority parties and a wider range of views in their legislative branches. The American system -- with its single-winner districting-- seem, in hindsight, almost seems hard-wired to wind up with two parties. One in power and the other to oppose everything they do; then they switch.

How would that work in the US? I'm not familiar with how the Representatives are selected in that type of system.

Do you just vote for a party and not the actual person?

How would that work in the US? I'm not familiar with how the Representatives are selected in that type of system.

 

I'd have to do some reading to see if anyone's proposed a system for the US. Proportional representation has as many methods of allotting seats as there are countries using it.

Do you just vote for a party and not the actual person?

 

Not necessarily. For example... In Spain you vote for a party. In the Netherlands you vote for an individual.

 

What makes those two interesting is that in Spain, like the US, there is proportional representation not only for parties but for the individual provinces based on population. In the Netherlands, while you vote for individual candidates, there is no determination of seats based on the separate governmental jurisdictions, just one, big nationwide election for all seats in the national election with the candidates and parties receiving the most votes receiving the most seats.

Not necessarily. For example... In Spain you vote for a party. In the Netherlands you vote for an individual.

 

What makes those two interesting is that in Spain, like the US, there is proportional representation not only for parties but for the individual provinces based on population. In the Netherlands, while you vote for individual candidates, there is no determination of seats based on the separate governmental jurisdictions, just one, big nationwide election for all seats in the national election with the candidates and parties receiving the most votes receiving the most seats.

 

I'd think if it was a nation wide election, states like Ky would never be represented.

Reading on this a little bit, I'm not thinking I would favor this type of representative selection.

I'd think if it was a nation wide election, states like Ky would never be represented.

 

In the history of the Netherlands electoral system, no party has ever gained 35 percent of the total vote. It simply doesn't happen.

 

Voting ends up happening in blocks. I could see a really strong conservative party emerging from the Southeast and parts of the Midwest that Kentucky would inevitably support based on current voting trends.

I'd think if it was a nation wide election, states like Ky would never be represented.

 

Kentucky virtually plays no role in the Presidential election as it is now. The only time candidates visit is when they fly in on their way to Ohio.

Kentucky virtually plays no role in the Presidential election as it is now.

 

Most states don't.

Kentucky virtually plays no role in the Presidential election as it is now. The only time candidates visit is when they fly in on their way to Ohio.

We are talking Representatives not President, Ky Senators and Congressmen do play a role in national politics.

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