Certainly not limited to Coach McGlone, but should coaches who are long tenured and especially ones who have had much success be the ones to decide when to call it quits. I understand why people whould say legendary coaches should be the ones to make the calls, but lets face it there are some strong willed stubborn old coaches out there, which makes it tough. Again I am not speaking in any way about Coach McGlone, but what if the program slips, what if they age to the point that they struggle to keep up with the demands, what if they just aren't effective, etc. There are plenty of examples both nationally (Bowden, Paterno, etc) and within the state (McGlone, Bob Schneider at NCC).

Certainly not limited to Coach McGlone, but should coaches who are long tenured and especially ones who have had much success be the ones to decide when to call it quits. I understand why people whould say legendary coaches should be the ones to make the calls, but lets face it there are some strong willed stubborn old coaches out there, which makes it tough. Again I am not speaking in any way about Coach McGlone, but what if the program slips, what if they age to the point that they struggle to keep up with the demands, what if they just aren't effective, etc. There are plenty of examples both nationally (Bowden, Paterno, etc) and within the state (McGlone, Bob Schneider at NCC).

 

Depends on what the goal of your program is. If it is Ws and Ls, then no, unless they do like Coach Schneider did and stay current. He allowed his coordinators to coach their sides of the ball like a lot of college coaches do. The program improved over his last 8 years or so. If, like Bowden and Paterno, you allow the program to stagnate and can't keep up, then it is time to go. The AD has a job and job title for a reason. Now, especially for high school, if it is about character and developing men primarily, then they should be able to make the call. Wisdom is a value that is underrated by our society.

I don't like the ideas of firing a legendary coach or forcing an abrupt resignation.

 

I am a firm believer in a "Farewell Tour" retirement in these instances. If you know it is time to move on for the better of the program you break the news to the legend as easy as possible but insist that you want him to not only be the one announcing his retirement, but to have a full season for one last go at it. The Coach then announces he will retire at the end of the season during the Summer.

 

Now everyone gets to make their peace and express their respect from the other sideline every week. The kids have a rallying point to try and build off of during the off season ("Win it for Coach!" and you can schedule banquets and recognition throughout as necessary to limit distractions. It also gives you a full year for a proper coaching search (invite the legend to be on the committee) and to potential applicants they will see this as a positive towards how the administration and community respect their HC.

 

The obvious drawback is if you are playing mediocre football and the feeder program is outdated you essentially have potentially another "bad" season, but at the same time there is something to be said for doing it the "right way".

Certainly not limited to Coach McGlone, but should coaches who are long tenured and especially ones who have had much success be the ones to decide when to call it quits. I understand why people whould say legendary coaches should be the ones to make the calls, but lets face it there are some strong willed stubborn old coaches out there, which makes it tough. Again I am not speaking in any way about Coach McGlone, but what if the program slips, what if they age to the point that they struggle to keep up with the demands, what if they just aren't effective, etc. There are plenty of examples both nationally (Bowden, Paterno, etc) and within the state (McGlone, Bob Schneider at NCC).

That's what the AD is for. It could be very tough sometimes to be the bad guy, but sometimes it is much needed. Sometimes a coach stays on and it hurts the kids because the kids only have a few years to be a part of something special. If the coach isn't getting it done then he needs to go.

That's what the AD is for. It could be very tough sometimes to be the bad guy, but sometimes it is much needed. Sometimes a coach stays on and it hurts the kids because the kids only have a few years to be a part of something special. If the coach isn't getting it done then he needs to go.

What are you saying exactly is "what the AD is for"?

With regard to coach McGlone, unless I'm misinformed, which often times is true, a couple of years ago he tried to resign due to health issues and it was denied by the school. So, that may be an odd turn of events.

What are you saying exactly is "what the AD is for"?

Isn't the AD or at least shouldn't that be his job? The hiring and firing of coaches?

If you read the update on Coach McGlone in the Daily Independent, Apparently he was offered a farewell season and he said he'd rather stay three. Apparently that was not an option. I don't know what the thought process is within the administration and I have mixed emotions. I have great respect for Coach. When a coach gives you 38 years and builds a tradition and teaches life lessons to his players, you have to be willing to give him the one year. But if it is the intent and right of the administration to go a different direction and the coach says I want three more years, that makes it a very tough call.

I'm sorry but there can be no comparison between high school coaches and college coaches in this conversation. It can only be about high school coaches. That said, I think you have to look at the overall program. Is it still meeting its goals which are not always Ws and Ls. Is participation at the same level as similar schools? Is the team as competitive now as it was 5, 10, 15 years ago given all the circumstances that can effect that? There is no easy answer and every situation I am sure is different.

Isn't the AD or at least shouldn't that be his job? The hiring and firing of coaches?

Gotcha, I wasn't sure what you were saying. To answer your question, no, not in Kentucky. I am not naive enough to think that the AD at many schools carries a lot of weight, but hiring and firing doesn't fall under their responsibility. That falls on the school administration, more specifically the Principal in conjunction with the Site Based Council.

With regard to coach McGlone, unless I'm misinformed, which often times is true, a couple of years ago he tried to resign due to health issues and it was denied by the school. So, that may be an odd turn of events.

A point of clarification: Coach McGlone has offered to resign twice in the last five years, including after the 2012 season. Both times, the administration declined to accept his resignation. Then, prior to the 2013 season starting, the new superintendent approached Coach McGlone and made an offer of making the 2013 season his "farewell tour". Coach McGlone declined. He was told if he did not accept, he would be fired after the 2013 season. I guess the administration lived up to their word and fired him.