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Interesting read. I had not seen the part about the school resource officer cornering the shooter which resulted in the kid taking his own life.

 

We have one resource officer for the entire county (13 schools). It isn't enough in my opinion.

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Interesting read. I had not seen the part about the school resource officer cornering the shooter which resulted in the kid taking his own life.

 

We have one resource officer for the entire county (13 schools). It isn't enough in my opinion.

 

Just wondering, but what are you counting as the one RO for 13 schools? I ask because I'm curious.

 

Personally, I don't know how I feel about an officer being at a grade school, but obviously think it's way more acceptable at a high school.

Personally, I don't know how I feel about an officer being at a grade school

 

Yeah, why would we want to protect little kids....? :rolleyes:

I have no problem with various staff members, properly trained, with a concealed and carry, and cleared through the school, bringing guns to work. It is sad, but it is a different world.

Yeah, why would we want to protect little kids....? :rolleyes:

 

Well, there's no danger of little kids seriously hurting each other in a fight like high schoolers. There's probably more of a danger from the combination of someone who'll use excessive force on a kid and get sued or be accused of being a little too friendly with the kids to justify keeping them there a whole day.

 

Adults watch the kids, and when your pupils are all under 12 or so, it's probably easier for you to identify someone who doesn't belong. It's also probably much easier for a teacher to physically take a weapon from a kid that age, at least compared to trying to do the same to that same kid at 17 or 18 (like they'd be in high school).

 

Not saying that it horrible things don't happen (look at Newtown), but those are kind of the exception, not the rule in grade schools. If I have a kid in the 5-10 range, I'm probably more worried if the consolidation of the teachers and school can't prevent something like that from being an inherent risk such that requires a SRO on duty at all times. If you need a SRO to constantly monitor kids at that age, than maybe it's an indication of a bigger problem.

 

I'm not talking about a person coming by periodically, doing some public service programs, or being on call in the event of something serious. I'm talking about the cost-benefit analysis of hiring a full-time SRO at every grade school.

 

My high school had a male and female SRO on duty at all times, so it's not like I'm living in lollipop land. Even at a high school that needed two SRO's, I don't remember anything at the age of 5-10 that was more than a bloody nose or something and would have required a full time SRO (which you are probably going to need one of each gender of).

In our county school systems there are 3 SRO's that cover two high schools and 2 middle schools. One for each HS and one that rotates between the MSs. The City school system has one that rotates between the HS, MS and ES. There is also one SRO assigned to another independent school system that only has K-6.

 

I fully support the idea of SRO's in all schools and have no problem with some school personnel being trained and certified to conceal carry on school premises.

I have no problem with various staff members, properly trained, with a concealed and carry, and cleared through the school, bringing guns to work. It is sad, but it is a different world.

100% this^

Well, there's no danger of little kids seriously hurting each other in a fight like high schoolers. There's probably more of a danger from the combination of someone who'll use excessive force on a kid and get sued or be accused of being a little too friendly with the kids to justify keeping them there a whole day.

 

Adults watch the kids, and when your pupils are all under 12 or so, it's probably easier for you to identify someone who doesn't belong. It's also probably much easier for a teacher to physically take a weapon from a kid that age, at least compared to trying to do the same to that same kid at 17 or 18 (like they'd be in high school).

 

Not saying that it horrible things don't happen (look at Newtown), but those are kind of the exception, not the rule in grade schools. If I have a kid in the 5-10 range, I'm probably more worried if the consolidation of the teachers and school can't prevent something like that from being an inherent risk such that requires a SRO on duty at all times. If you need a SRO to constantly monitor kids at that age, than maybe it's an indication of a bigger problem.

 

I'm not talking about a person coming by periodically, doing some public service programs, or being on call in the event of something serious. I'm talking about the cost-benefit analysis of hiring a full-time SRO at every grade school.

 

My high school had a male and female SRO on duty at all times, so it's not like I'm living in lollipop land. Even at a high school that needed two SRO's, I don't remember anything at the age of 5-10 that was more than a bloody nose or something and would have required a full time SRO (which you are probably going to need one of each gender of).

 

Another great benefit of having SRO's in elementary schools is getting the students familiar and comfortable around police officers. Unfortunately the only contact many young children have with the police is of the negative sort. I have friends that are police officers and they all hate it when someone points to them and tells a kid that they had better be good, eat their vegetables, be quiet or some other command or that police officer will take them to jail.

 

I know of cases locally that have come about because a child felt comfortable enough to talk to their SRO about a problem that they were having either at school, on a bus or at home. That comfort comes from having having those kids around a police officer that goes out of his/her way to connect with these students.

I heard a comedian a while back talk about school shootings...he said that school shootings would stop when teachers started shooting back.

 

Overly simple but schools by in large are a soft target for other students or other distraught individuals to attack knowing that there is a very slim chance that they will be confronted.

I heard a comedian a while back talk about school shootings...he said that school shootings would stop when teachers started shooting back.

 

Overly simple but schools by in large are a soft target for other students or other distraught individuals to attack knowing that there is a very slim chance that they will be confronted.

 

Or in Texas... where you've probably got a good chance of other kids just firing back. #Cowboys

I think all high schools should have at least one police officer present on a daily basis. Also agree with teachers certified with CC permits being allowed to have guns at the school, as long as they are safe.

I think all high schools should have at least one police officer present on a daily basis. Also agree with teachers certified with CC permits being allowed to have guns at the school, as long as they are safe.

 

That's where they getcha'.

Just wondering, but what are you counting as the one RO for 13 schools? I ask because I'm curious.

 

Personally, I don't know how I feel about an officer being at a grade school, but obviously think it's way more acceptable at a high school.

 

13 is total schools in the county elementary through high school.

The difference in an SRO and a teacher carrying is that the SRO can totally focus on school safety. Teachers being able to focus on teaching would be my preference.

However, if no $ for SROs to join the force, teachers/admin carrying (with lots of training) would be the next best option.

Our guidance counselor, band director, and a social studies teacher are all active or retired military. The social studies teacher keeps a football next to his desk and has a cannon for an arm... but has made it clear that he believes the schools should be protected from active shooters by people who have more than a football at their disposal.

....and if the teachers have guns, they can shoot the band directors that are sodomizing 14y.o. girls.